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Perpetual virginity
OSV.com ^ | 03-09-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 03/12/2016 9:36:07 AM PST by Salvation

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To: Iscool
The first thing you should do is round up all the literature with this Demontfort's name connected with it and throw it in the round file...Where did you ever get the idea that this guy was an authority on what God says???

De Montfort is one of many authorities on the worship of Mary without calling it worship. "Ever Virgin" is but a tiny piece of a very large puzzle.

541 posted on 03/14/2016 11:16:34 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.)
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To: Iscool

You sir, have a lot of patience and biblical knowledge to attempt to detangle writings that just leave my head spinning.


542 posted on 03/14/2016 11:18:06 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.)
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To: MHGinTN

Sorry.


543 posted on 03/14/2016 11:22:54 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: verga

Foreign languages must be translated unless they are common enough for posters to know what they express in English.

Do not post in the Religion Forum with your present tagline without a translation in your posts.

Click on my name at the bottom of this post to review the guidelines for the Religion Forum.


544 posted on 03/14/2016 11:33:18 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Mrs. Don-o

And if I didn’t say it before, I do appreciate your response.


545 posted on 03/14/2016 11:44:23 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Blessings, ealgeone.


546 posted on 03/14/2016 11:54:36 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("May the Lord bless you and keep you; may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.")
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To: Elsie

Wow. I’m keeping company with Elsie, the Great.


547 posted on 03/14/2016 11:58:27 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Iscool
There was an expectation for Messiah at this time as well. Any Jewish girl who was familiar with the OT knew this. Would a young girl who'd been picked to be the mother of Jesus have turned this opportunity down?

No.

Gabriel didn't come to Mary's house and say, "Well, I've asked three others and they said no. How about you?"

Mary knew what Gabriel was telling her. She just didn't understand the process by which it would happen which Gabriel explained to her.

549 posted on 03/14/2016 12:12:18 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Iscool
"The world being unworthy," said Saint Augustine, "to receive the Son of God directly from the hands of the Father, he gave his Son to Mary for the world to receive him from her.

Which is EXACTLY why Jesus came.

Somehow Catholics seem to have this idea that we can somehow clean ourselves up to make ourselves worthy of God and His grace. NOTHING could be further from the truth.

While we were yet SINNERS, Christ died for the ungodly.

If righteousness could come by the Law, Christ died for nothing. He didn't die for only those who couldn't do it on their own. He died for all even those who THINK they can do it on their own.

550 posted on 03/14/2016 12:13:20 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: MHGinTN

All we need to disprove the Catholicism deception of perpetual virginity is one brother of Jesus. Paul names at least one in James the brother of our Lord.


What you really need is a brother of Jesus who is His mother’s son, similar to what is written of Benjamin, “And he lifted up his eyes, and saw his brother Benjamin, his mother’s son...” Genesis 43:29

Unfortunately for you, there is nowhere in Scripture that it is written that any of the brothers of Jesus was His mother’s son.


551 posted on 03/14/2016 3:14:30 PM PDT by rwa265
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To: rwa265
ulous powers? 55"Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? 56"And His sisters, are they not all with us? Matthew 13:55

Catholics keep denying the examples put before them.

552 posted on 03/14/2016 3:23:26 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Elsie

Good to know, lol.


553 posted on 03/14/2016 3:29:43 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

AHhh...


554 posted on 03/14/2016 3:52:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Don’t sell the farm; for...

SMTA; too!


555 posted on 03/14/2016 3:53:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
If righteousness could come by the Law, Christ died for nothing.

If CLEANNESS could come by PURGATORY, Christ died for nothing.

556 posted on 03/14/2016 3:55:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwa265
Unfortunately for you, there is nowhere in Scripture that it is written that any of the brothers of Jesus was His mother’s son.

Well; since Catholicism will NOT allow BROTHER to mean BROTHER; but COUSIN...

...watcha gonna do?

557 posted on 03/14/2016 3:57:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone

If Rome insists on calling BROTHER a COUSIN; then it had better come up with some SISTERS or BROTHERS of Mary!


558 posted on 03/14/2016 3:58:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Details, details......


559 posted on 03/14/2016 4:16:05 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
The OPPOSITE of Perpetual virginity is what???



560 posted on 03/14/2016 4:36:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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