Jesus always had a way of getting to the heart of the matter, not arguing details. I think the following speaks to the topic:
Joh 6:31 After all, our ancestors ate manna while they journeyed through the wilderness! The Scriptures say, ‘Moses gave them bread from heaven to eat.’”
Joh 6:32 Jesus said, “I tell you the truth, Moses didn’t give you bread from heaven. My Father did. And now He offers you the true bread from heaven.
Ears to hear..........................
There are carnal ears, and there are spiritual ears. Catholiciism prefers the carnal ears since they hear the empowerment scheme without realizing the man-made scheme is not spiritual. The carnal mind is at enmity with God, is not subject to God, neither can be.