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To: ealgeone
The Word, if read in context, and an understanding of the Greek denies she was ever virgin.
  1. Define what you mean by "The Word."
  2. In which century can you prove there were Christians who believed and taught as you do concerning blessed Mary, ie., documented proof that they taught she was not Ever Virgin.
  3. Assuming it was the 19th Century, how is it that Historical Christianity did not believe as you do ?

    I note Mormonism also began in the 19th Century.

333 posted on 03/13/2016 2:34:22 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
I note Mormonism also began in the 19th Century.

And I note that the immaculate conception did not become dogma until the 19th century as well, but neither observation is relevant to the current discussion.

337 posted on 03/13/2016 2:42:12 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: ealgeone

See 337. Forgot to ping you.


338 posted on 03/13/2016 2:43:29 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: af_vet_1981
I note Mormonism also began in the 19th Century.

Mormonism

  • claims itself to uniquely be "the Church"
  • claims a unique and authoritative priesthood, thereby denying the royal priesthood of all believers
  • adds to the Holy Bible (with the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price)
  • accepts multiple satanic visions as being from God
  • undermines the power of Jesus' blood by its view of personal suffering for the expiation of sins
  • sings praise songs about Joseph Smith, Jr.
  • has strange doctrines regarding marriage (polygamy accepted in early days)
  • believes in God the mother (who has conceived multitudes of spirit children)
  • claims the head of their group speaks infallibly at times
  • redefines "saint" to mean a living, breathing Mormon, instead of a bible-defined child of God

  • accepts and spreads "another gospel" (Gal. 1:8,9)- good works, water baptism and church membership
  • professes itself as Christian; Jesus as God, Savior, Lord and Son of God; Jesus' atoning death and resurrection
  • doctrines are sending millions to Hell and they need to be openly refuted with Scripture

Catholicism

  • claims itself to uniquely be "the Church"
  • claims a unique and authoritative priesthood, thereby denying the royal priesthood of all believers
  • adds to the Holy Bible (with sacred tradition)

  • accepts multiple satanic visions as being from God
  • undermines the power of Jesus' blood by its view of personal suffering for the expiation of sins
  • sings praise songs about Mary

  • has strange doctrines regarding marriage (celibacy still practiced among its clergy)
  • believes in the mother of God (who is the sinless Queen of Heaven)

  • claims the head of their group speaks infallibly at times
  • redefines "saint" to mean a physically dead Catholic who was afterwards "canonized," instead of a bible-defined child of God
  • accepts and spreads "another gospel" (Gal. 1:8,9) - good works, the sacraments, Mary and church membership
  • professes itself as Christian; Jesus as God, Savior, Lord and Son of God; Jesus' atoning death and resurrection
  • doctrines are sending hundreds of millions to Hell and they need to be openly refuted with Scripture
  • teaches and practices bowing before and kissing statues
  • WORSHIPS the consecrated communion wafer as God
  • claims Mary is their life, sweetness, hope and most gracious advocate (as revealed in the Rosary)
  • claims Mary was raised bodily into Heaven
  • claims they get to Jesus by first going to Mary
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/catholicmormon.htm
349 posted on 03/13/2016 3:03:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981

Paul when he visited James, brother of the Lord. Next question please.


357 posted on 03/13/2016 3:32:04 PM PDT by ealgeone
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