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He just said last week he week to get rid of NATO. He got in trouble for it.

Trump said he would fix it...Replace it with something better...

Here’s his interview saying he’s for universal health care.

Donald Trump: —the government’s gonna pay for it. But we’re going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.

Well then it's not universal healthcare then, is it...You are just as dishonest as Cruz...

Here’s his interview saying he’s for universal health care.

Donald Trump: —the government’s gonna pay for it. But we’re going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.

Well then it's not universal healthcare then, is it...You are just as dishonest as Cruz...

Actually, that's a pretty apt description of what Obamacare aspires to be. The healthcare exchanges were originally supposed to be a kind of managed private competition. It doesn't work because the government involvement corrupts the natural behavior of the free market. It's really a fascist system, an unholy synthesis of government and private sector powers. Here's a more complete transcript from which the above text is taken:

Donald Trump: Obamacare’s going to be repealed and replaced. Obamacare is a disaster if you look at what’s going on with premiums where they’re up 40, 50, 55 percent.

Scott Pelley: How do you fix it?

Donald Trump: There’s many different ways, by the way. Everybody’s got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, “No, no, the lower 25 percent that can’t afford private. But–”

Scott Pelley: Universal health care.

Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.

Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?

Donald Trump: They’re going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably–

Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?

Donald Trump: —the government’s gonna pay for it. But we’re going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.

So you owe Linda Frances an apology. Any reasonable reader of that text would be crazy if they didn't read that as universal healthcare. It absolutely is, at least in that interview, and that's from back last September, IIRC.

Here's the thing people. There is real spiritual danger in running around trying to win political arguments by accusing fellow FReepers of dishonesty. There may be real dishonesty going on here. But I sincerely believe that almost 100% of the beliefs expressed here are sincerely held. The person may or may not have done their research, or they may have a blind spot, but they are telling you what they really believe is true, and that's not dishonest. We are vessels of clay. We've got no business launching off on each other with accusations of the heart that only God could verify. No earthly political fight is worth the descent into this kind of hellish lovelessness. This makes me so sad I could cry.

Peace,

SR