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To: Elsie
Catholics use Mother of GOD as if Mary gave BIRTH to god.

Who or what exactly did Mary give birth to then, a cheese danish?

526 posted on 04/14/2016 5:08:10 AM PDT by Legatus (I think, therefore you're out of your mind)
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To: Legatus; metmom; imardmd1; Elsie; daniel1212; Mark17; ADSUM; ealgeone
It is sad to see that previous posts offered to you went unread. I suppose that's a good way to remain trapped in the cult of the Vatican. But it exposes your lostness when you keep playing the game as if no one has offered explanation that you have conveniently missed. so here is the answer, one more time, just for you, catholic:

In John 14 we read a scene of Jesus instructing His closest friends. In this scene JESUS answers your poorly framed question with a simple Physics lesson:

John 14:5 Thomas saith to him, ‘Sir, we have not known whither thou goest away, and how are we able to know the way?’

6 Jesus saith to him, ‘I am the way, and the truth, and the life, no one doth come unto the Father, if not through me;

7 if ye had known me, my Father also ye would have known, and from this time ye have known Him, and have seen Him.’

8 Philip saith to him, ‘Sir, shew to us the Father, and it is enough for us;’

9 Jesus saith to him, ‘So long time am I with you, and thou hast not known me, Philip? he who hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how dost thou say, Shew to us the Father? 10 Believest thou not that I [am] in the Father, and the Father is in me? the sayings that I speak to you, from myself I speak not, and the Father who is abiding in me, Himself doth the works; 11believe me, that I [am] in the Father, and the Father in me; and if not, because of the works themselves, believe me

I have come to realize that many catholics will refuse to hear anything of teaching from a non-Catholic. I suppose it is a strong defensive mechanism helping top keep catholics sewn up in catholiciism. But here is what Jesus was teaching His disciples about the nature of Him and God the Father Almighty:

When Jesus says 'I am in the Father and the Father is in me', when Jesus tells them 'if they have seen Him they have seen The Father', Jesus is saying that all they can see of The Father is what they see IN JESUS. Because of their spacetime dimensional limits, they cannot see more of GOD than where He, GOD, enters/intersects their limits, as JESUS, God with us.

So, when someone keeps badgering someone else to say Jesus IS God, they reveal an agenda which is aimed at trapping someone intot he false syllogism which elevates Mary the Mother of Jesus, to a status far beyond her station. MARY was alive under the exact same spacetime limitations that the disciples had when they asked Jesus to show them The Father. They were mortal, only mortals. Jesus standing in their midst or gestating in Mary's womb, was all of God any of them was going to be able to experience in their limited state. What do you think the BIBLE means when it states that He made Himself a little lower than the Angels, for a season, for us?

Mary is The Mother of Jesus, the man. Just as Paul says there is only One mediator, THE MAN CHRIST JESUS.

So the answer to your badgering is found in the passage where Jesus taught His disciples a Physics lesson. Why don't you read it a couple of times through and see what GOD'S Spirit explains to you through His Word?

And before you respond, remember that the mother builds exactly ZERO of the body in her body attached to her through an umbilicus made by the new life, along with the amniotic sac made by the new life, and the physical body for life in the air world, build solely by the new life following the DNA directions GOD coded into our existence.

541 posted on 04/14/2016 9:08:44 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: Legatus

So; you state that Mary DID give birth to GOD.

Ok then.


554 posted on 04/14/2016 10:45:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Legatus; Elsie
ElsieCatholics use Mother of GOD as if Mary gave BIRTH to god.

Legatus:Who or what exactly did Mary give birth to then, a cheese danish?

So why are you denying the incarnation and the humanity of Jesus?

See? Two can go there.

563 posted on 04/14/2016 12:00:08 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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