[marshmallow]

Hartmayer is a Franciscan and is my bishop here in the Diocese of Savannah. With an issue of this importance, I would have expected some form of episcopal communication on the subject to be read at all Masses but so far, not a peep out of him.

Gregory in Atlanta is an AmChurch Bernardin protege. A culture warrior, he isn't.

[Lazamataz]

Catholic clergy are whackjob liberals.

[MichaelCorleone]

What is called ‘heavy pressure from powerful corporations’ is the result of homosexuals and other deviants infiltrating the higher echelons of the corporate structure and government.

Business, large or small, doesn’t like to get involved in controversy as a rule. Their smart enough to know that to pander to one side is to jeopardize business to the other.

But this isn’t about business. It’s about fascism and advancing their agenda. It’s a mistake for the Bishops to stand idle.

[mrmeyer]

Cowards.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Are there any independent lay organizations in these dioceses which will be able to form themselves into a collective foot to kick the backsides of these sorry bishops?

I'll tell you right now that there isn't any such organization in my diocese (Knoxville.) How does one go about organizing?

[Amendment10]

"… Bishop Gregory Hartmayer of Savannah announced blandly: “Gov. Nathan Deal has announced his intention to veto H.B. 757 and the debate will, thus, continue.”"

There actually is no debate imo. With all due respect to Bishop Hartmayer, the main reason that Christians are now being persecuted by federal and state governments is because they probably don’t know their constitutional protections.

Consider Section 1 of the 14th Amendment for example.

14th Amendment, Section 1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States [emphasis added]; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Also, note that Acts 22:24-29 indicates that Paul claimed his Roman citizenship protections to save himself from being flogged.

Christians also need to get up to speed on constitutionally checked versus unchecked 10th Amendment protected state powers.

As a side note to this discussion, consider that an angry conservative, mad at the feds, was in the office yesterday. I asked this person the question, "do you know what the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I is (the fed’s constitutionally limited powers)?”

Nope

[NoLibZone]

How is such a position by Catholics, news?

[Unam Sanctam]

Shameful.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Oh my goodness. How absolutely unexpected. I'm shocked . . . shocked, I tell you! [/sarcasm]

After all, everyone knows Catholics don't interpret the Bible literally; they're not Protestants, you know! And that's an important point to make in a "redneck" state.

[opus1]

The US bishops are not, as a whole, on the sidelines. This statement:

“...focus on greater compassion and mercy so that every individual can develop his or her full potential...”

Translates to:

“We endorse and approve the homosexual agenda for the family, the social justice agenda for the Church, and the progressive agenda for the country.”

[wardaddy]

Catholic Church is a ship nowadays with no rudder and a light wind

But plenty of sailor boys