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At Long Last, Many Divorced And Remarried Catholics Say They No Longer Feel Like Outcasts
Washington Post ^ | April 10, 2016 | Julie Zauzmer and and Michelle Boorstein

Posted on 04/10/2016 11:19:46 AM PDT by Steelfish

At Long Last, Many Divorced And Remarried Catholics Say They No Longer Feel Like Outcasts

Maria Olsen of Fairhaven, Md., in the chapel at Stone Ridge School of the Sacred Heart,, regrets that her divorced father, who left the Church over being denied Holy Communion, never received the kind of affirmation being offered by Pope Francis.

By Julie Zauzmer and and Michelle Boorstein April 9

Olsen recalled her divorced father dropping her and her brother, then ages 6 and 5, at the curb outside their Kensington, Md., parish on Sundays. Her father was so committed to the Catholic Church, she said, that he wanted his children to attend Mass despite the fact that he and his ex-wife were unable to receive the key rite of Communion and no longer felt welcome in the church.

“I felt like we were the only kids without parents,” said Olsen, a mother of two who lives in Fairhaven, Md.

As an adult, Olsen has been able to make peace with her faith, remaining heavily involved in her parish while confidently rejecting teachings she considers manmade flaws. But she regrets that her father, like so many other divorced Catholics who have left the church, never received the kind of affirmation offered by Francis in his dramatic call for tolerance toward families the church officially views as nontraditional.

Francis’s long-awaited document, “Amoris Laetitia” — Latin for “the Joy of Love” — didn’t lift the ban on Communion for Catholics who divorce and remarry without an annulment, but he seemingly has made room for priests and laypeople to make such decisions together on a case-by-case basis.

This measure of outreach, (snip) appears to have brought comfort to many among the millions affected by previous Catholic teachings on marriage that have drawn bright lines.

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To: Steelfish

Sounds like religious amnesty.


41 posted on 04/10/2016 4:20:47 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I'm not going to fight with you

As a former Catholic, I was taught and trained that there could be no divorce, period (I'm 68 years old) and homosexuality was always a most grievous sin

If it's changed ... shame on the Catholics for allowing that indoctrination to enter in your consciosness

42 posted on 04/10/2016 5:05:08 PM PDT by knarf
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To: knarf
Knarf. There CAN BE NO divorce which dissolves valid marriage vows. Valid marriage creates a bond until it is broken by death --- but until then it cannot be broken by anyone, not even the Church.

And a homosexual act IS always a most grievous sin.

That's what it says in the Bible, that's what it says in the Catechism, that's what Pope Francis says. None of that has changed.

If somebody told you that changed, they lied to you.

43 posted on 04/10/2016 5:27:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mater et Magistra.)
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To: Arthur McGowan; terycarl

The priest was mistaken to request you involve your “ex.”
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Think possibly he wanted meet because the children were not ‘involved’ ..... Since they were both married with kids, that ‘ship had sailed’.

In regards to the absolution, guess in that respect ‘they’ figured it never happened with the Confession ‘clearing the air’.

I will admit to probably having a ‘negative attitude’ when it came to going back BUT what with the Mass in English, Women with a very active role, Lay people distributing Communion, I sort of figured it was not the Catholic Church/Service I was raised with.

The ‘hug’ caught me way off guard and since the person standing next to me was NOT a good looking blond I almost ‘decked’ the guy when he ‘grabbed’ me for a hug - but when I looked around, I saw that I was the ‘different’ one.


44 posted on 04/10/2016 5:48:04 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Pols headstone- Please bury me not so deep so I can continue to fleece the sheep")
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To: Arthur McGowan
Amoris laetitia, btw, contains heresy. The next good Pope will repudiate it.

Does it follow then that Francis is a heretic? If so, can a heretic be a Pope? Is the seat vacant?
45 posted on 04/10/2016 6:35:29 PM PDT by armydoc
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To: xrmusn

Go to Latin Mass and you will find what you seek.


46 posted on 04/10/2016 7:32:50 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: armydoc

That is for others to decide, and it is a question that laity and lower clergy should not even discuss. One’s time would be more productively spent worrying about when the Sun is going to explode.

Bergoglio will die. In other words, the problem, whatever it is, will be solved, and we will move on.


47 posted on 04/10/2016 7:36:42 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: xrmusn

Pope Paul was the most presumptuous Pope in history. He had no right to revise the Mass in a wholesale manner.

Perhaps you could find a Mass celebrated according to the Mussel of 1962.

It’s still the Catholic Church—no matter how deformed and corrupt.


48 posted on 04/10/2016 7:42:25 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Steelfish
Nothing has really changed.

Amoris Laetitia: Full Text, “The Joy of Love”

49 posted on 04/10/2016 7:54:09 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: xrmusn

Nothing has really changed from your old church...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3419431/posts?page=49#49


50 posted on 04/10/2016 7:58:16 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Jeff Chandler

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3419431/posts?page=49#49


51 posted on 04/10/2016 7:59:22 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

How many priests will now advise couples (and other clusters?!) in “irregular” relationships not to worry about sin, come on up to receive? How many bishops will direct their priests to do so? How many religious education courses will teach that is all a matter of conscience?

Before Pope Francis, most Catholics had never heard that they must be free of mortal sin in order to approach Christ in the Eucharist. Now the world believes the Catholic Church accepts divorce and remarriage. That is the message received through the media. It has not been corrected by Pope Francis. He could easily have been clear on this matter, but deliberately chose to be vague. No other conclusion can be reached other than that is exactly what he wants people to believe.

God help us.


52 posted on 04/10/2016 8:16:34 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (In this Year of Mercy, may God have mercy on us.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I know of at least two priests who have already done so. The first advised the couple to go ahead and divorce because “God wants us to be happy,” and the other advised a couple who were already divorced and civilly remarried that it was perfectly OK to receive Holy Communion, even absent annulments for both of them.

All this happened more than 30 years ago. I can only imagine how much more frequently it will happen now.

Regards,

PS: Both priests were cardigan-wearing Jesuits.


53 posted on 04/10/2016 8:30:44 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: Arthur McGowan
That is for others to decide, and it is a question that laity and lower clergy should not even discuss.

Fascinating. A Catholic Priest feels comfortable proclaiming the sitting Pope to be a heretic on a public forum but feels it improper to discuss the implications. But, he'll be dead soon so Catholics can just ignore him, until a Pope that you approve of is elected. This Protestant thinks the historical argument regarding the Papacy is pretty much irrelevant now. You have in practice adopted our position.
54 posted on 04/11/2016 4:30:30 AM PDT by armydoc
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To: terycarl
Divorced an remarried Catholics CANNOT receive the Eucharist because they are living in an adulterous relationship....a no-no.

But if they pay the "vig" to the Catholic church, they then obtain a paper that says the marriage was never valid and all is okay and forgiven. They can then remarry. Miraculously, then they're not living in an adulterous manner. It's all about giving the proper $$$ to the Catholic church.

55 posted on 04/11/2016 7:11:45 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: armydoc
"This Protestant thinks the historical argument regarding the Papacy is pretty much irrelevant now. You have in practice adopted our position." My problem is much deeper. I still agree in principle with the traditional teachings of the Catholic Church. But if the Pope and Magisterium can even encourage heresy - albeit for a limited time - then one must call into question the authority of the RCC leadership as stewards and protectors of the Truth. From saying that their is salvation outside of Christianity to the new stance on Divorce/Annulment to abuses of the Novus Ordo to floating trial balloons on the acceptance of homosexuality....things aren't looking good for the RCC right now.
56 posted on 04/11/2016 9:35:05 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: armydoc

Huh?

Bergoglio is a bad Pope. He seems to hold heretical views, and he has a long history of antinomianism. He can’t even obey his own liturgical law. The latest document is subversive and arguably heretical.

But he has not formally proposed a heresy for belief, with divine Faith, by the entire Church. That is all the Church claims we are protected from. Read Vatican I’s definition of Papal Infallibility.

Any well-informed Catholic has the right, even the duty, to raise the alarm in order to protect fellow Catholics from being deceived. But deposing a Pope for heresy? That, to coin a phrase, is above my pay grade.

To say MY position—being critical of a PARTICULAR Pope—is the “Protestant” position, is preposterous.


57 posted on 04/11/2016 2:12:39 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: armydoc

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-cardinal-burke-says-popes-exhortation-is-not-magisterial


58 posted on 04/11/2016 2:29:24 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Got it. You and the Cardinal agree that the heretical Pope can be safely ignored. You see the problem, though, don’t you? When your “good” Pope comes along with teachings with which you agree, the liberals will dismiss it with the same claim- “not magesterial”. My assessment stands. Protestants can stand down regarding the whole papacy argument. The office has effectively been neutered.


59 posted on 04/11/2016 3:32:45 PM PDT by armydoc
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To: armydoc

You can pretend that that’s what Cardinal Burke’s words mean if you wish.

I don’t think you’re fooling anybody but yourself, so that’s okay.


60 posted on 04/11/2016 5:15:26 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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