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To: patlin

The Judaizers in Acts 15 and Galatians, who believed Christians had to be circumcised, and were commanded to keep the law of Moses, have their form of Judaizing, you have yours.

In fact, it has been my experience, that most who want to impose your form of Judaizing on Gentiles, that I have met, also do so with the law of Moses.

With the exception of circumcision, that is. Most won’t go that far. Are you one of those who believe that Gentiles have to be circumcised?


44 posted on 04/15/2016 10:02:50 AM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas

Go read the first part of Matthew 16, then read Mark chapter 7 & 8, and then proceed to Luke chapter 12 as Galatians has nothing to do with the doctrines of Christ, but all the man made religious doctrines and traditions that have nothing to do with Moses, or for that matter, Christ, as Christ dictated to Moses ALL of His doctrines He says, “not one jot or tittle shall fall” from that which He gave to Moses for our instruction in the doctrines and teachings of Christ.


56 posted on 04/15/2016 10:59:40 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: sasportas
And no, circumcision has nothing to do with salvation, but it does have everything to do with reward...

Eze 44:9 Thus says YHWH (the Lord): No son of a foreigner, uncircumcised in heart or uncircumcised in flesh, comes into My set-apart place, even any son of a foreigner who is among the children of Israel.

Circumcision of the heart as well as the flesh... Jer 31, Heb 8, they are the SAME covenant. It is not the terms of the covenant that the belief in Christ changes, it is where the terms of the covenant are written, no longer in stone, but now in the flesh of our hearts as Moses taught it would be...

Rom 10:5 For Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the person who does the commandments shall live by them. 6 But the righteousness based on faith says, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) 7 or “’Who will descend into the abyss?’” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim);

PAUL WAS QUOTING FROM MOSES...

Deu 30:9 YHWH (the LORD) your Elohim (God) will make you abundantly prosperous in all the work of your hand, in the fruit of your womb and in the fruit of your cattle and in the fruit of your ground. For YHWH (the LORD) will again take delight in prospering you, as he took delight in your fathers, 10 when you obey the voice of YHWH (the LORD) your God, to keep his commandments and his statutes that are written in this Book of the Torah (Law), when you turn to YHWH (the LORD) your Elohim (God) with all your heart and with all your soul. 11 For this commandment that I command you today is not too hard for you, neither is it far off. 12 It is not in heaven, that you should say, Who will ascend to heaven for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it? 13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that you should say, Who will go over the sea for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it? 14 But the word is very near you. It is in your mouth and in your heart, so that you can do it.

Faith isn't just confessing that Jesus is the Christ, it is as Peter instructed us, following the example that Christ left us to follow, who was obedient to the Father unto death and His commandments are not burdensome, however, those of men are and that is why I chose to purge the leaven of men from by walk as Christ instructed us to, so to walk as Christ walked. Not that I am perfect, for He is my perfection when I stumble and without Him, there is no salvation for anyone for ALL mankind has fallen short of the glory of Elohim (God) and in need of a Savior.

Therefore, we must be careful no to confuse the Torah (Law) of God with the laws of men that corrupt the Torah (Law) of Elohim (God). At least, that is what my Bible teaches from Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21.

And so as I sit and reflect upon the many weekends I sat in Catholic mass with my grandparents of another religion, I never could understand this doctrine that Mary died a virgin when the Bible is clear that she didn't.

Shalom!

64 posted on 04/15/2016 12:09:56 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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