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quote-However, this practice itself does not mean they are preaching a false gospel. Despite your additions to what Paul preached, he did not mention the specific days that Christ died on, and making belief in these necessary for salvation, as you inferred, is a false gospel.

I recall saying sanctification in a post, not salvation. That may be mind reading on your part.
I can go back and see and will apologize if I did. But you used the ‘inferred’ which tells me, it was you who thought that, not I.

Sola Scriptura, shall we?

Paul to the Corinthians 1 Cor 15
1Now I make known to you, brethren, THE GOSPEL which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand,
1 Cor 15:3
3For I delivered to you as of FIRST IMPORTANCE what I also received, that Christ died for our sins ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES, 4and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES,…

So, Paul is making known the gospel in 1st verse in the 3rd verse says, inspired by the Holy Spirit, that the FIRST IMPORTANCE TO THE GOSPEL IS THAT CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS ACCORDINING TO THE SCRIPTURES. And Paul, inspired by the Holy Spirit, uses the ‘According to the Scriptures twice in consecutive verses)

What Scriptures is Paul, inspired by the Holy Spirit, referencing here?

The Holy Spirit could have inspired Paul to just write that Christ died for our sins, leaving out the ‘According to Scripture’ or as some versions state ‘In Accordance with the Scriptures’

But that isn’t what is written.

When one has the 2nd version (in Accordance with the Scriptures) it becomes clearer Paul is referencing the Old Testament Scriptures and not Mathew, Mark, Luke and John.

So, why would according to scripture be in there?

Maybe because prophecy would show that someday other versions of events would pop up that wouldn’t be ‘according to scripture-

We have some who think he died on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
How does one know the Truth?

Well, we are to be sanctified in the Truth. His Word is Truth.

There are different versions of the 1st importance today! Not just Rome’s Good Friday.

Passover doesn’t equal Good Friday or Wednesday or Thor’s Day and Good Friday or Wednesday or Thor’s Day don’t equal Passover, it seems much more clear. That comes with study and testing those teachings and doctrines with Scripture.

Rome can’t even get what Paul calls the first importance of the gospel correct.
And because of it, they have birthed other versions that have people saying it was another Roman day (like Thor or Tiw’s Or Woden’s when Christ died for our sins)

Is it a minor detail? Most would say yes. Protestant daughters certainly would run to Rome’s defense of her calendar, but maybe not all climb on board her Good Friday.

But from that false premise of Rome’s authority, lots of people can’t see how that 1st importance is muddied.

And without the scriptures, one can’t know Truth.

But the enemy is more subtle than anything in the garden..

According to the Scriptures, Christ died for our sins on Passover, the 14th Day of the Father’s 1st month.

Passover can fall on any day of Rome’s week. It can land on a Roman Monday, Tiwsday, Woden’s Day or a Thor’s Day or a Friday, Saturday (against Judaism’s rules but not the Father’s) and a Sunday.

Anybody ever ask the Father why Passover is not on a Friday every year?
I have.

Anybody ever ask Rome why Good Friday isn’t Passover every year?
I didn’t have to because the Father told me the difference between Passover, according to the Scriptures and Good Friday according to Rome.

Is that, at it’s most infantile elementary level, another gospel? Does it matter?
Depends on whether people want Sola Scriptura to be the final arbiter of religious doctrinal debates- or not.


187 posted on 04/26/2016 8:50:52 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

Catholiciism is ‘another gospel’, not Christianity. The pagan rites and days inveigled early on, probably before John penned The Revelation. Rome was the center of much of the pagan additions and since The Vatican holds the documents for the True History, don’t expect any deep truth to come out of Rome, the swallowers of The False Decretals of Isadore, the Marcion heresies, Arianism ... well, you get the picture. Flawed men bowed to pagan ism rather than forfeit their lives, and Anicetus was likely overtaken by the lust for power.


188 posted on 04/26/2016 11:05:04 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: delchiante; daniel1212

What do you think is more critical to our faith? The belief that Jesus was God with us and that he died for our sins, was buried and rose again three days later to confirm he was who he claimed to be or that we MUST be sure to observe the EXACT day every year thereafter?


190 posted on 04/26/2016 4:37:53 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: delchiante; metmom; MHGinTN
I recall saying sanctification in a post, not salvation. That may be mind reading on your part. I can go back and see and will apologize if I did. But you used the ‘inferred’ which tells me, it was you who thought that, not I.

If you had cared or dared to follow the link then you should have been be able to see that the context was not that of sanctification, but of believing a false gospel and false Jesus:

That was Paul’s gospel. which gospel is taught today? Rome’s with Good Friday or Paul’s with Passover (14th)? Rome’s with Holy Saturday or Paul’s Unleavened Bread (15th)? Rome’s with Easter Sunday or Paul’s First Fruits (16th)? The difference is stark when they land on different days. Even more stark when they land in different months. 2 Cor 11:3 But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ. 4For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully.

This is more serious than your absurd idea of deviant sexual sins being what really went down in the garden.

Sola Scriptura, shall we?...Paul is making known the gospel in 1st verse in the 3rd verse says, inspired by the Holy Spirit, that the FIRST IMPORTANCE TO THE GOSPEL IS THAT CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS ACCORDINING TO THE SCRIPTURES. And Paul, inspired by the Holy Spirit, uses the ‘According to the Scriptures twice in consecutive verses) What Scriptures is Paul, inspired by the Holy Spirit, referencing here? The Holy Spirit could have inspired Paul to just write that Christ died for our sins, leaving out the ‘According to Scripture’ or as some versions state ‘In Accordance with the Scriptures’ But that isn’t what is written.

Indeed, and "according to the Scriptures" that the Holy Spirit chose to record, the Scriptures both he and or other apostles clearly referenced were only those which prophetically spoke of Christ death and resurrection, and never the specific calendar day, that "the Lord died on the 14th Day of the Father’s 1st month," which you read into Paul's mind and make so important:

"He [David) seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption," (Acts 2:31)

And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers, God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David. Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption: But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption. (Acts 13:32-37)

And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him. The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth: In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth. (Acts 8:31-33)

Such is the evidence of what "according to the Scriptures" referred to, and multiple to the OT can be seen here , by God's grace, and while there is more prophetic material outside of what we see in the NT that can be used to substantiate the Lord as being the promised Messiah who fulfilled the promises, but nowhere is the specific calendar day gone into as an important belief as part of the gospel "by which ye are saved" to which Paul referred in 1 Co. 15, despite the multitude of Gentiles.

But cults typically look for some ignored or debatable point to major on in order to justify themselves as the elite, and denigrate those outside their chosen group. So what is the name of your movement and its teachers?

Rome can’t even get what Paul calls the first importance of the gospel correct.

So now that specificity which Paul never stated as being of great importance in gospel preaching, that "the Lord died on the 14th Day of the Father’s 1st month, is now of "first importance" since you read into "according to the gospel" that which is not manifestly mentioned.

That comes with study and testing those teachings and doctrines with Scripture.

There it is. Another typical cultic aspect. Just like the Watchtower disciples something that takes much study is made essential to be saved.

Is it a minor detail? Most would say yes. Protestant daughters certainly would run to Rome’s defense

How typical of cults with their false dilemmas: if you do not agree with them then you are defending Rome. Works for 7th day sabbath-keepers, annihilationists, "sacred name" proponents, etc.

According to the Scriptures, Christ died for our sins on Passover, the 14th Day of the Father’s 1st month..

As attesting to Christ being the Lamb of God such has its place, but which does not even mean it must be a yearly observance, nor that is was so important to believe that Paul and the other preachers specified this.

Anybody ever ask Rome why Good Friday isn’t Passover every year? I didn’t have to because the Father told me the difference between Passover, according to the Scriptures and Good Friday according to Rome. Is that, at it’s most infantile elementary level, another gospel? Does it matter?

No, "another gospel" includes those who add to the gospel that which Scripture does not in order to be saved, and which is what you have done by charging those who hold to the calendar of Rome are preaching "another gospel," which is most of Christianity save for some elite cult. That they should not hold to the calendar of Rome is one thing;l but it is another to make that a matter of "first importance" as btwn a true Christ/Spirit/gospel and a false one.

Depends on whether people want Sola Scriptura to be the final arbiter of religious doctrinal debates- or not.

Indeed, and which testifies to what Paul specifically referenced as being "according to the Scriptures," and foundational beliefs. Which was not that of explaining that the Lord died on the 14th Day of the Father’s 1st month.

192 posted on 04/26/2016 7:03:15 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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