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To: ebb tide; metmom; daniel1212; Mark17; HossB86; MHGinTN; Elsie
>Apostates love to cherry-pick the Bible.

[26] And whilst they were at supper, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke: and gave to his disciples, and said: Take ye, and eat. This is my body. [27] And taking the chalice, he gave thanks, and gave to them, saying: Drink ye all of this. [28] For this is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many unto remission of sins. Matthew; Chapter 26

Yes ya'll do. Let's look at all of the Gospel accounts and 1 Corinthians...in context.

The Gospel accounts on the Passover Supper Jesus shared with His disciples before He was crucified.

Key word in Matthew, Mark and Luke regarding His blood....it is poured out. This is what happened to blood in the OT sacrifices. It was never consumed.

Remembrance as used in Luke and 1 Cor

ἀνάμνησις,

anámnēsis (from 363 /anamimnḗskō, "bring to mind") – properly, deliberate recollection, done to better appreciate the effects (intended results) of what happened

1 Corinthians tells us why we are doing this....we are proclaiming His death until He comes.

Matthew 26:26-29 Mark 14:22-25 Luke 22:14-20 1 Corinthians 10:23-26
26While they were eating, Jesus took some bread, and after a blessing, He broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is My body.” 27And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you; 28for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins. 29“But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.” . 22While they were eating, He took some bread, and after a blessing He broke it, and gave it to them, and said, “Take it; this is My body.” 23And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, and they all drank from it. 24And He said to them, “This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many. 25“Truly I say to you, I will never again drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God 14When the hour had come, He reclined at the table, and the apostles with Him. 15And He said to them, “I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer; 16for I say to you, I shall never again eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.” 17And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves; 18for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine from now on until the kingdom of God comes.” 19And when He had taken some bread and given thanks, He broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 20And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood. 23For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25In the same way He took the cup also after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” 26For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes.


23 posted on 04/22/2016 8:29:14 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

NOT participating in it.


24 posted on 04/22/2016 8:33:37 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ealgeone
Key word in Matthew, Mark and Luke regarding His blood....it is poured out. This is what happened to blood in the OT sacrifices. It was never consumed.

Christ's Blood was consumed at the Last Supper, and has been at every sacrifice of the Holy Mass, since.

P.S. I see you've called in your troops. Have at, all of you, attack the Bible.

25 posted on 04/22/2016 8:35:15 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ealgeone; ebb tide; metmom; daniel1212; Mark17; HossB86; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; ...
1 Corinthians 10:23-26 23For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25In the same way He took the cup also after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”.... For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes.....20And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood.

Three things that warrant more focus:

1. 1 Corinthians 10:24 states, "this is my body, which is broken[ klaō] for you." Klaō means break/broken/breaking, and corresponds to

"But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised [dâkâ']for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed." (Isaiah 53:5) "Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise [dâkâ'] him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin," (Isaiah 53:10), and dâkâ' means "crumble; transitively to bruise (literally or figuratively): - beat to pieces, break (in pieces), bruise, contrite, crush, destroy, humble, oppress, smite," (Strong's) And it is thus translated:

break, 3: Job_19:2, Psa_94:4-5 (2); broken, 3: Isa_19:9-10 (3); crushed, 2: Job_4:19, Job_5:4.

2. Matthew 26:28 states, "this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins," and which corresponds to,

"because he hath poured [ârâh] out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors." (Isaiah 53:12) And as such ârâh is translated "Until the spirit be poured [emptied] upon us from on high..." (Isaiah 32:15)

Thus "broken" and "poured out" metaphorically speak of what Christ would endure for us sinners, glory to God.

3. 1 Corinthians 11:26 states,

For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew [kataggellō] the Lord's death till he come.

Kataggellō means "to proclaim, promulgate: - declare, preach, shew, speak of, teach," (Strong's) and as such it is translated, Total KJV Occurrences: 17 preached, 6: Act_4:2, Act_13:5, Act_13:38, Act_15:36, Act_17:13, Phi_1:18; preach, 4: Act_17:3, 1Co_9:14, Phi_1:16, Col_1:28; show, 3: Act_16:17, Act_26:23, 1Co_11:26; declare, 1 Act_17:23

The reproof of the Corinthians here is that while they were physically coming together to eat the Lord's supper, they really not coming together to eat the Lord's supper (When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper), not because of some failure to perceive the nature of what they were eating, but because while they were supposed to be showing/declaring the Lord's death for the church (For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come), they were selfishly eating independently, even to the full (for in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken), while ignoring other blood-bought saints who thus went hungry, and which thus was to "shame them that have not." (1Cor. 11:20-22,26)

Therefore they were effectually not recognizing the church which Christ bought with His own sinless shed blood (Acts 20:28) as actually being the body of Christ (thus Paul was persecuting the Lord by persecuting His body, the church: Acts 9:4). And thus they were not remembering/showing the Lord's death (which command Paul uniquely provides as being the purpose: v. 26), by treating members of it as outcasts. Paul the pastor elsewhere reproves Christians for harming brethren, "for whom Christ died (Rm. 14:15; 1Cor. 8:11) Therefore the rank hypocrisy here of these Corinthians left them guilty of the body and blood of the Lord by which He bought the church, as they were acting utterly contrary to its purpose and what it did, and the love behind it. Therefore some were even chastened unto death.

And since the problem was that of selfishly eating independently, even to the full while ignoring other blood-bought saints, thus the given solution was not that of recognizing a supernatural nature of the elements consumed, which souls could do while eating independently (though contrary to the meaning of "communion"), but the solution was to effectually recognize each other as members of the corporate body, to "tarry one for another," and to eat at home so that they do not come to the Lord's supper and do as before due to lust for food. (Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come. Vs. 33,34)

144 posted on 04/23/2016 5:53:53 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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