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Nice summary of what is really going on in your Mormon friends heads, regardless of what they tell you.

Disclaimer - I was a faithful, believing Mormon for many years until I was challenged by a Christian and ended up researching my way out of it. I told many of these same lies when I was Mormon in order to get people to convert although I did not see it as lying at the time.

1 posted on 04/25/2016 5:29:27 PM PDT by reaganaut
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Ping for the Inmans


2 posted on 04/25/2016 5:31:11 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-Mormon, Now Christian - I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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Glenn Beck Says People Who Vote Against Ted Cruz Will Face Wrath of God

http://bizstandardnews.com/2016/04/24/glenn-beck-says-people-who-vote-against-ted-cruz-will-face-wrath-of-god/


3 posted on 04/25/2016 5:32:03 PM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: reaganaut

Every mormon I have met have been the nicest people...


4 posted on 04/25/2016 5:34:31 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Elsie

For your info


8 posted on 04/25/2016 5:43:02 PM PDT by Mark17 (I traded my shackles for a glorious song. I'm free, praise the Lord, free at last.)
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To: reaganaut

I will take the words of a Mennonite, any day, any hour, any year, before I indulge myself, for one second of any vocal output from a Mormon.


19 posted on 04/25/2016 5:53:08 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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Enough of the Morman bashing...the world has MUCH larger fish to fry.


20 posted on 04/25/2016 5:58:09 PM PDT by myheroesareDeadandRegistered
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Read


21 posted on 04/25/2016 5:58:11 PM PDT by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man.)
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It is not surprising that Mormons are comfortable lying. Their founder was a liar too...

"Josiah Stowell, a Mormonite, being sworn, testified that he positively knew that said Smith never had lied to, or deceived him, and did not believe he ever tried to deceive any body else. The following questions were then asked him, to which he made the replies annexed.

Did Smith ever tell you there was money hid in a certain glass which he mentioned?

Yes.

Did he tell you, you could find it by digging?

Yes.

Did you dig?

Yes.

Did you find any money?

No.

Did he not lie to you then, and deceive you?

No! the money was there, but we did not get quite to it!

How do you know it was there?

Smith said it was!

Addison Austin was next called upon, who testified, that at the very same time that Stowell was digging for money, he, Austin, was in company with said Smith alone, and asked him to tell him honestly whether he could see this money or not.

Smith hesitated some time, but finally replied, "to be candid, between you and me, I cannot, any more than you or any body else; but any way to get a living."

Here, then, we have his own confession, that he was a vile, dishonest impostor.

As regards the testimony of Josiah Stowell, it needs no comment. He swears positively that Smith did not lie to him. So much for a Mormon witness."

http://olivercowdery.com/smithhome/1877Purp.htm

22 posted on 04/25/2016 5:58:49 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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Even I know longer believe in the false religion I started! Yet day after day, the people I led astray keep posting on FreeRepublic and knocking on doors to mislead people.

Oh, how I regret how Satan used me to lead millions astray! If only I had a second chance to change things! FLEE! Before it is too late! Flee the cult of mormonism!


7.5 posted on 11/27/2010, 3:23:02 PM by Joseph Smith
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Wait. I'm getting a testimony... a repentant Joseph Smith, who now knows the truth, is testifying to us all! If you are sincere, you will here his voice repenting of his demonic activities.
27 posted on 04/25/2016 6:02:15 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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“Just this past week, a general authority of the church spoke at BYU’s commencement for the need to “Disassociate” with those who have lost faith”

A sure sign you are dealing with a cult.


36 posted on 04/25/2016 6:10:12 PM PDT by Boogieman
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One important thing to know is LDS supports open borders and illegal immigration. They are conservative on most issues but I sure part ways with them on that. I have LDS friends in Arizona that do not support open borders but the church does and I have never heard anyone in Utah say the border should be secured and they are all into taking care of illegals.


38 posted on 04/25/2016 6:13:03 PM PDT by Tammy8
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You realize you’re confirming a prophetic declaration made by Joseph Smith to Isaac Behunin, don’t you?


47 posted on 04/25/2016 6:26:40 PM PDT by bobfeland (To be learned is good if you,hearten to the counsel of God!)
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I just open up asking about their holy underware and they usually dont stay around long.


62 posted on 04/25/2016 6:53:02 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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Polygamy is still preached today in Utah...It is named: The Reorganized Church of Latter Day Saints...

When Utah was told it could not become a State because of Polygamy, this branch of the Church broke off and went to Southern Utah/Arizona border...

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=20&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwisvf6MmKvMAhUG0GMKHfelDhEQFgh0MBM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sltrib.com%2Fnews%2Fpolygamy%2F&usg=AFQjCNG01ZsVNLtIbQbfLURegAKdxzkJ0A&sig2=EzAyhdC37eEhztPyWIFXkw

65 posted on 04/25/2016 6:55:55 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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... most Mormons may not realize they are lying...

I'd say this would apply to most of them.

They 'know' what they've been 'taught' and any researching outside LDS approved areas is frowned upon.

This is why I try to use official MORMON documentation at every turn.

77 posted on 04/25/2016 7:13:02 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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They 'know' what they've been 'taught'...


 
 
Professor Robert Millet        teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004  http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/  <-- Complete and uneditted
 

If the above link does NOT function; try THIS one.   Click on the second image.
 
http://mormontruthnews.blogspot.com/2006/10/robert-millet-former-dean-of-religious_01.html

 
 
Timeline...    Subject...
 
0:59           "Anti-Mormons..."
1:16           "ATTACK the faith you have..."
2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."
3:57           "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."

 
 
 
 
 

78 posted on 04/25/2016 7:14:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: reaganaut
Lie #4: The Mormon Church was never Racist.

HMMMmmm...

You'd think they'd know their own HISTORY on the matter...





"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.



Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'



August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)



1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."



We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.



Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).



When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."



When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)





Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.

 

“I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.

At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.

One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.

 

(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)

 



 

82 posted on 04/25/2016 7:19:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Lie #7: We don’t believe you will go to hell
 
 
HMMMmmm...
 
Mormonism really doesn't HAVE a 'hell'.


AFTERLIFE: The Mormon afterlife is divided up into four levels. From the lowest to the highest they are: hell, and then three levels of heaven: the telestial, the terrestrial, and the place where God dwells, the celestial (also called the kingdom of God). The celestial is also divided, the highest level being "exaltation," or becoming a God.

 

HEAVEN-The Mormon church teaches there are three levels of heaven (three "degrees of glory"):

HELL: A place of torment from which the worst of sinners are resurrected (if they repent) into the Telestial kingdom; only a limited number remain in hell forever, - the devil and the demons and apostates who consciously reject and work against Mormonism.


Mormonism has taught that those in the Telestial kingdom will have paid for their own sins in spirit prison, a temporary hell which serves as a place of purging before entrance into heaven (cf. D&C 138: 58-59).

Orson F. Whitney preached:

"But those who reject the Gospel altogether and are besotted and crimestained---what of them? It is written that they will be thrust down to hell; even the murderer, the liar, the sorcerer, and the whoremonger. They will, in short, be damned. But they will only be damned to the extent justified by their sins. Even for them there is hope, after they have 'paid the uttermost farthing.' They will be punished, as all men must be, for neglect of duty, for transgression of the laws of God; but after they have been punished sufficiently, they will be brought forth and saved in a glory of which the stars in heaven are typical." ("The Three Great Teachers", May 8, 1898; Brian H. Stuy, ed., Collected Discourses 1886-1898, v. 5)

Chapter 41 of the 2009 Gospel Principles manual quotes D&C 19 and concurs the same:

"Also in the spirit prison are those who rejected the gospel after it was preached to them on earth or in the spirit prison. These spirits suffer in a condition known as hell. They have removed themselves from the mercy of Jesus Christ, who said, 'Behold, I, God, have suffered these things for all, that they might not suffer if they would repent; but if they would not repent they must suffer even as I; which suffering caused myself, even God, the greatest of all, to tremble because of pain, and to bleed at every pore, and to suffer both body and spirit' (D&C 19:16-18). After suffering in full for their sins, they will be allowed, through the Atonement of Jesus Christ, to inherit the lowest degree of glory, which is the telestial kingdom" (Gospel Principles, 2009, p. 244).


86 posted on 04/25/2016 7:27:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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...I was challenged by a Christian and ended up researching my way out of it.


88 posted on 04/25/2016 7:32:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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I met a couple in the doctor’s office waiting room of all places. I simply asked how it was possible that the golden relics, of such recent times, were nowhere to be seen, yet there are other Christian relics from a couple thousand years ago - and most not as durable as gold.


139 posted on 04/26/2016 4:00:29 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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