A Look at the Early Catholic Church from the Acts of the Apostles

Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 04-26-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

[CraigEsq]

“Well of course the Grace comes from God....sheesh...but He sends it through the Sacraments which He Himself ordained”

No, he doesn’t send them through the sacraments he sends them through Christ Jesus straight to the believer at the foot of the cross. Stick with your original answer of outward expressions or did they threaten to cast you out of the rcc . Contary to the rcc the thief on the cross didn’t recieve any sacraments just pure Grace and we know for a fact he went to Heaven! Now that’s finished answer the question that I have asked you twice.

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If I knew how to do such things on FR, I’d insert that picture of the girl in the taco commercial saying “why not both?”

God uses both Word and Sacrament to create and strengthen faith and forgive sin. You’re both right!

[Mark17]

If you had paid as much attention in Catechism class as you did to the Navigators, you'd still be a saved Catholic instead of ................?????

Thanks bro, but I am comfortable being a ?????. I was never a saved Catholic anyway, and I don't think there was even one of my Catholic high school classmates who was either, though there may have been one of two.
I didn't pay attention in catechism class, because I didn't want those priests and nuns spoiling all my fun. Remember, I was a man of the world. I tried to avoid doing mortal sins, but those venial sins seemed to lead to mortal sins. Praise God that the Navigators came along and told me the truth. I never heard it before.
My dad once asked me if I wanted to be a priest. I said absolutely no way. I was more interested in the girls than being a priest. He never asked me again.
I hate to keep saying it, but I don't like to do any sins, except the sin of having assurance of salvation. If people have no assurance, that's on them.

[boatbums]

I have no idea...

That's right. You don't. Stop trying to pretend you know things like that. You weren't there...you CAN'T know.

And as for reading the words the Holy Spirit inspired the writers of Scripture to say, I will trust that same Holy Spirit to teach me what God wants me to know. Remember, Peter said it was the UNLEARNED and UNSTABLE who wrest and twist Scripture to their own destruction. I will trust God over man.

[mrobisr]

“strengthen faith and forgive sin.”
You are half right.

Because Grace saves us through faith not through sacraments or any other form of outward expressions. While they may strengthen us that still isn’t our salvation. I give all the Glory to God through Jesus Christ for his Grace that he showed us in the finished work on the cross. My point is that the rcc claims after the cot that the sacraments save you, but that just isn’t true and the rcc didn’t believe it either before the cot.

Ephesians 2:8-9 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

8 For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, for it is the gift of God;

Romans 10:9 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

9 For if thou confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him up from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Let me say this loud and clear NO sacrament saves you or forgives any sin. Only the shed blood of Jesus Christ forgives sins and not by works but by Grace through faith.

[mrobisr]

“They live in a much smaller reality than we do.”

This coming from someone who bows and kneels before and idol every time you step foot inside that building you call a church.

Exodus 20:4 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

4 Thou shalt not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the earth.

Deuteronomy 5:8Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

8 Thou shalt not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of any things, that are in heaven above, or that are in the earth beneath, or that abide in the waters under the earth.

But yes we do live in a smaller reality/world because scripture tells us that we must as the larger part is headed for death.

Matthew 7:13-14 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

13 Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat.
14 How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life: and few there are that find it!

[Elsie]

 As the First Pope wrote in one of His letters:

^{2 Peter 1:1-4     New International Version (NIV)}

 

^{1 Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ,}

 

^{To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:}

 

^{2 Grace and peace be yours in abundance through the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord.}

 

^{3 His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. 4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.}

 

 

^{How DARE Rome come along later and claim, "Wait a minute!   You need MORE!!!"}

[Elsie]

One good thing about family:

When there are no neighbor kids to fight with; we can get it on with each other.

[Elsie]

We can only pray that it will work out this way here.

I don’t want to be like a cop that is called to settle a domestic disturbance!

[Elsie]

It is difficult to explain something to one who is blind and obstinate.

Tell me!

How hard does your seeing-eye dog have to tug you, to keep you from stepping off the curb into traffic?

[Elsie]

Elsie - splendidly

REALLY?

[Elsie]

Well of course the Grace comes from God....sheesh...but He sends it through the Sacraments which He Himself ordained

Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom." 

He replied to him, "I say to you today; you will need to have seven sacrements.  You don't have enough time left.  Sorry."

 

 

[Elsie]

If you had paid as much attention in Catechism class as you did to the Navigators, you'd still be a saved Catholic instead of ................?????

Auto correct spelled DUPED wrong...

[Elsie]

If I knew how to do such things on FR, I’d insert that picture of the girl in the taco commercial saying “why not both?”

You do NOW!

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Merely paste the address ( like THIS one) http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc70/tpjdmm/knock-knock.gif

 

between the QUOTES, and you're good to go!

 

 

<img src="">

 

Here's how it works:  <img src="http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc70/tpjdmm/knock-knock.gif">

 

giving you...

 

 

 

 

 

If you want your cursor to display a message when on the picture, than add THIS

 title="" between the img and the src text with your messge inside the quotes like this:

 

<img  title="Here's Johnny!" src="http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc70/tpjdmm/knock-knock.gif">

 

...or at the end....

 

<img  src="http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc70/tpjdmm/knock-knock.gif" title="Here's Johnny!">

 

 

[Elsie]

You weren't there...you CAN'T know.

This is not a limitation on ANY Catholic's ability to spout what they've been so thoroughly taught.

[Mark17]

One good thing about family:

When there are no neighbor kids to fight with; we can get it on with each other.

Amen Elsmeister, and yes, splendidly. Did you like my Limerick?

[Mark17]

I will ping you to the HTML sandbox, so you can learn how to post pictures, just like all of us learned. Check my profile to see pics posted. Watch for the ping.

[Elsie]

I will ping you to the HTML sandbox, so you can learn how to post pictures, just like all of us learned.

Not all.

I learned; in the early days; by selecting VIEW SOURCE on the very less complex web pages that we had 10 or more years ago.

Having the code, that produced the results on the screen, was a very powerful way to learn stuff.

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When Cascading Style Sheets came around; I never learned that stuff; as the old way still worked for me.

[Elsie]

Besides; FR uses a very small subset of the existing HTML commands.

[Mark17]

The vast majority of it, I don’t use.