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A Look at the Early Catholic Church from the Acts of the Apostles
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 04-26-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/27/2016 8:41:02 AM PDT by Salvation

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1 posted on 04/27/2016 8:41:02 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Monsignor Pope Ping!


2 posted on 04/27/2016 8:42:39 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; daniel1212
And thus we see the ordination of priest leaders in every place. “Priest” is just an English mispronunciation of the word “presbyter.”

Priest is not a NT office of the Church. This is simply eisogesis from hundreds of years later, read back into Scripture to justify it... like so many other doctrines made up out of whole cloth.

cc: daniel1212

3 posted on 04/27/2016 9:05:41 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: Salvation

These are always very good.


4 posted on 04/27/2016 9:08:10 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: Salvation

Thanks for posting Fr. Charles Pope. Some writers are smart but not brave. Some are brave but not smart. He’s both brave and smart, making him a national treasure.


5 posted on 04/27/2016 9:11:55 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Indeed!


6 posted on 04/27/2016 9:36:13 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Are you saying you don’t believe St. Luke or St. Paul?


7 posted on 04/27/2016 9:38:04 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

They did not appoint priests as understood by roman catholicism.


8 posted on 04/27/2016 9:45:27 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Salvation

I’m saying Arch...Pope reads back into Scripture and perverts what Luke and Paul wrote.


9 posted on 04/27/2016 9:45:55 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: Salvation
What he left out though is huge.

No worship of Mary.

No prayers to Mary.

No sacrifice of Christ over and over and over as found in the catholic Mass.

No penance.

No indulgences

No "infallability of the pope"

No salvation through works.

The list can go on and on.

10 posted on 04/27/2016 9:47:36 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Salvation

Would a conservative in Perga be a....

Perga Tory?


11 posted on 04/27/2016 9:56:08 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Ah the protestors again! Perhaps they only accept the Bad news!

Did everyone accept this as good news? No. Some, indeed many, were offended and sought to convict Christians as “disturbers of the peace.” Some don’t like to have their sin and bondage called out as such. They prefer bondage, sin, and darkness to light, holiness, and freedom.

Question http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/where-in-the-new-testament-are-priests-mentioned

The New Testament mentions three categories of Church leaders: bishops, presbyters, and deacons. So how can the Catholic Church justify its office of “priest”? The New Testament writers seem to understand “bishop” and “presbyter” to be synonymous terms for the same office (Acts 20:17-38).

Answer
The English word “priest” is derived from the Greek word presbuteros, which is commonly rendered into Bible English as “elder” or “presbyter.” The ministry of Catholic priests is that of the presbyters mentioned in the New Testament (Acts 15:6, 23). The Bible says little about the duties of presbyters, but it does reveal they functioned in a priestly capacity.

They were ordained by the laying on of hands (1 Tm 4:14, 5:22), they preached and taught the flock (1 Tm 5:17), and they administered sacraments (Jas 5:13-15). These are the essential functions of the priestly office, so wherever the various forms of presbuteros appear—except, of course, in instances which pertain to the Jewish elders (Mt 21:23, Acts 4:23)—the word may rightly be translated as “priest” instead of “elder” or “presbyter.”

There is more if you care to read it.


12 posted on 04/27/2016 10:09:44 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Salvation
But consider this aspect: Jesus is our one High Priest because He offers Himself as the sacrificial Lamb to the Father. At the Last Supper He says "Do this is remembrance of Me," so He is telling His Apostles there assembled, to join in his priestly action.

Hence, Priest is not "a" NT office of the Church; Priest is "the" NT office of the Church. And who does this priestly action? Jesus Christ Our Lord.

This is all prophesied in Malachi, where He foresees that a pure and perfect sacrifice will be offered from the rising of the sun to its setting, among the gentiles.

I thank God I have seen this prophecy fulfilled.

13 posted on 04/27/2016 10:12:12 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: ealgeone; Salvation

I’m surprised at you. You know Catholics don’t worship Mary. Pay attention! I may have to ask you to write that 50 times.


14 posted on 04/27/2016 10:16:41 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The actions of the catholic says otherwise.

For comparison...the people who bent the knee to the idols of Baal...worship or veneration?

15 posted on 04/27/2016 10:28:55 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Salvation

I love the Acts and Letters.

I particularly like the part where Paul tells Peter that he was wrong (Galatians 2). Apparently quite an intense argument!


16 posted on 04/27/2016 10:29:57 AM PDT by Moonmad27 (Trump/Cruz 2016!)
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To: Salvation

PS - it was just the church or Christians then.


17 posted on 04/27/2016 10:30:54 AM PDT by Moonmad27 (Trump/Cruz 2016!)
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To: ealgeone

Since Baal was the Canaanites’ god, I’m going to guess it was adoration. They were polytheists, as I understand it.

Officer gets down on one knee to give folded US flag to the son of the deceased at a military funeral. Adoration or veneration?

Suitor drops to one knee to ask his beloved’s hand in marriage. Adoration or veneration?

Abigail prostrates before David the King. Adoration or veneration?


18 posted on 04/27/2016 11:06:57 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: ealgeone
Please keep in mind that symbolic gestures, even more than words, are polysemic.

Everybody realizes this,I think, on a daily basis in everyday life, except when discussing other people's religious beliefs.

19 posted on 04/27/2016 11:08:44 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Since Baal was the Canaanites’ god, I’m going to guess it was adoration. They were polytheists, as I understand it.

Come Mrs D....it was worship and you know it. The OT calls it worship in more than one place.

As far as your other examples....I don't see anyone praying to a flag, their beloved, or Abigail before David as the catholic does with Mary.

They do not rely upon Mary for intercession and salvation as does the catholic.

This is a very disingenuous attempt of the catholic to equate kneeling and praying to Mary with every day events in an attempt to excuse the worship of Mary.

20 posted on 04/27/2016 12:08:22 PM PDT by ealgeone
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