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Pope's Forte: Spilling the Beans
The Remnant Newspaper ^ | 5/7/16 | Christopher A. Ferrara

Posted on 05/10/2016 6:37:51 AM PDT by BlatherNaut

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To: piusv
“Perpetual” means forever, not continuous.

HMMMmmm...

So; if something STOPPED being 'continous'; for whatever length of time; would that mean that 'perpetual' would no longer be true in that interval?

121 posted on 05/20/2016 5:13:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide; Prince of Desmond
Fr. Paul Kramer did not become a sedevacantist until Francis issued his heretical, Evangelii Gaudium:

Does Fr. Kramer now subscribe to the sedevacantist delusion that sedevacantists alone have comprised the visible Church since 1958? If so, at this point, he may be doubting his own priesthood.

Regarding Fr. Kramer, you mentioned he was ordained in '76. Do you know anything else about him, e.g. when and where was he born, where did his study, by whom was he ordained, how does he pay for the bread on his table, etc.? Have read his book, "Devil's Final Battle" and watched a few of his Youtube videos, but beyond that, know very little about him, except that he was involved with the late Fr. Gruner and the Fatima Crusade.

Fr. Gruner: The "Sedevacantist" Theory is False

Christopher A. Ferrara: Defending the Papacy Opposing the Sedevacantist Enterprise

122 posted on 05/20/2016 6:34:44 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Elsie

I look at it as a pause button. The papacy and primacy of Peter continues until the end of time. At times the Seat may be vacant (as in interregnums), but the teaching of the papacy is until the end of time.


123 posted on 05/20/2016 1:50:47 PM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: piusv

I see.

This makes a bit more sense; logically.


124 posted on 05/20/2016 5:53:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlatherNaut
Do you know anything else about him, e.g. when and where was he born, where did his study, by whom was he ordained, how does he pay for the bread on his table, etc.? Have read his book, "Devil's Final Battle" and watched a few of his Youtube videos, but beyond that, know very little about him, except that he was involved with the late Fr. Gruner and the Fatima Crusade.

I also have read the Devil's Final Battle but do not have answers to your other questions. But I need to clarify: Because of Francis' heretical Evangelli Gaudium, Fr. Kramer has declared Francis to longer be a legitimate pope. Fr. Kramer, however, recognizes Pope Benedict to the current, valid Vicar of Christ.

125 posted on 05/20/2016 8:22:54 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Fr. Kramer was ordained in 1976, long after the evil Robber Council.

In which case, how does he know that his own priesthood is valid? The Bishop who ordained him was likely appointed to that position post-council; if all Popes after the Second Vatican Council are illegitimate, how does Father Kramer know that his own ordination was valid? Again---all ecclesiastical authority ultimately flows downward from the office of the Papacy; invalidate that, and how can any ordination or Papal appointment be valid? Sedevacantism necessarily inflicts that manner of logical disconnect. If the chair is empty---where stands the Church?

126 posted on 05/20/2016 11:41:11 PM PDT by Prince of Desmond
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To: ebb tide

Thanks.


127 posted on 05/21/2016 9:49:50 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Prince of Desmond

I’m just pointing out that, like the Protestants, there are all different flavors of sedevacantism.


128 posted on 05/21/2016 11:06:12 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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