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To: BlatherNaut

Not an insult. An obvious observation. Private judgment is okie dokey when it involves Catholics judging the liturgy, discipline and teachings of true popes, but private judgment of sedevcantists in baaaaad.

Hypocrisy at its finest.


53 posted on 05/12/2016 7:05:03 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: piusv
“In the words of St. Robert Bellarmine, “Just as it as it is licit to resist the [Roman] Pontiff who attacks the body, so also it is licit to resist him who attacks souls, or who disturbs civil order, or, above all, him who tries to destroy the Church. I say that it is licit to resist him by not doing what he orders and by impeding the execution of his will; it is not licit, however, to judge, punish or depose him, since these are acts proper to a superior. Sorry, this does not condemn sedevacantism.”

To the contrary, it illustrates the proper course of action when faithful Catholics are confronted with an errant Pontiff. We have the right and duty to oppose novelties such a Pontiff attempts to decree, but we absolutely do not have the right to declare him invalid or otherwise pretend he does not exist. If he was elected in the proper manner through the college of Cardinals, we have no licit pretext for claiming he is not the Pope, however much we dislike him.

Not a novelty, eh?

Not at all. As St. Robert Bellarmine explained, we are not bound to follow orders that violate Church teaching. We are however bound to recognize the office of the Pontiff issuing those orders, even if the decrees the issues are illegitimate. We are not the Pope's superiors; we are not given the right to oust him from office or will his Papacy out of existence.

“Prince, tell me who exactly in the post-Vatican II hierarchy will do this when there is yet one prelate to actually condemn AL (versus the ever-so-popular post Vatican II "ambiguous" canard) ? No answer Prince?”

Sorry, I didn't see your post. There are a few. Cardinal Burke, for one. And even if there were none---that does not justify the rest of us refusing to recognize the existence of the Papacy. Bottom line, pius---no matter what they do, that does not justify us indulging in novelties, breaking away because the current Pope is a scourge from hell. There is only one Ark, pius, against which all the devil's efforts are directed. An unworthy captain drilling holes in the bottom of God's ark is not our cue to leap overboard. Francis may be the most unworthy captain since Rodrigo Borgia---but he was elected. We are not invested with the right to invalidate that election.

Private judgment is okie dokey when it involves Catholics judging the liturgy, discipline and teachings of true popes, but private judgment of sedevcantists in baaaaad. Hypocrisy at its finest.

To the contrary, pius. We obey the proscribed limits of the liberty invested in us to resist the teachings of an unworthy Pope. St. Robert Bellarmine delineates them very clearly---we DO have the right to oppose the teachings of a Pope who strays from his proscribed authority; we DO NOT have the right to deprive him of his office, invalidate his Papacy, or punish him, since these are actions only permitted to a superior.

Poor St. Robert. I don't think he even realized he was a hypocrite.

58 posted on 05/12/2016 8:10:14 PM PDT by Prince of Desmond
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