You and Blather (and the rest of the Recognize and Resist crowd) have co-opted this Scripture to support the novelty that Catholics can disobey a true pope based on their *private judgment* of where they believe their true pope is in error.
I just wish for once when someone points fingers at sedevacantists for using their *private judgment* they would at least admit that they do it as well (hence the hypocrisy). Of course I happen to think the R&R position is worse in that these Catholics think they can disobey their pope.
Sedevacantists make the logical conclusion that a true pope can not give the Church evil laws, liturgy and teachings in faith and morals and recognize that one who does do this can not possibly be a true pope of the Holy Catholic Church...all based on the teachings of a DOCTOR OF THE CHURCH. Sedevacantists would never disobey a true pope. Sedevacantists strongly respect the office of the papacy and merely recognize that a heretical pope can be no pope and, as such, that he has already lost his office. They await the Church's final official declaration and God's restoration. In the mean time, they live their lives to the best of their ability in accordance with the Catholic Faith as it was always taught but they will not pay lip service to a false pope.
I'm tired of the anti-sede sentiment out there as if sedes were some form of Catholic leprosy. Like when people say "Francis has driven my mother to sedevacantism" which is what really got me going in this thread.
Have you, pius? Have you read the passages of Saint Bellarmine that you bandy about? He was certainly what you would deride as an "R & R" Catholic. It is licit to resist; it is not licit to depose. You can be a martyr in spirit for the Church, suffering the unique dismay of a faithful Catholic under the rule of an unworthy Pontiff; you are not at liberty to be a theological Bolshevik and deny the Papacy's functional existence, whether you choose to prop up a Pope Michael or venerate an empty chair.
I just wish for once when someone points fingers at sedevacantists for using their *private judgment* they would at least admit that they do it as well (hence the hypocrisy). Of course I happen to think the R&R position is worse in that these Catholics think they can disobey their pope.
Pius, I do hope you realize that you are calling a Doctor of the Church a hypocrite. Bottom line: "R & R" Catholics respect the extent of the liberty Mother Church has granted us to oppose an errant Pontiff; Sedevacantists assume unauthorized and novel liberties to which they have no true right. If that makes us hypocrites in your estimation, then I can only conclude that to be called a hypocrite by a Sedevacantist is likely a mark of virtue.
Sedevacantists would never disobey a true pope...They await the Church's final official declaration and God's restoration.
To which they will grant recognition in their own arbitrary good time.