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To: bgill

What happened to the PCUSA will happen to the UMC. A conservative version will start up and churches will begin to cross over.

The whole Holsten Conference of the UMC may leave en masse. It is very conservative.


21 posted on 05/17/2016 10:08:47 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: AppyPappy

Hopefully so.


23 posted on 05/17/2016 10:12:28 AM PDT by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: AppyPappy

Presbyterians have a bottom up governance system. In most instances, Presbyterian Church buildings are owned by the local congregations, which allows individual congregations to freely leave and affiliate with other denominations.

In the United Methodist Church, church buildings may be paid for by local congregations, but they are controlled by the Bishops, who are overwhelmingly left wing. Just like with the Episcopal and ECLA churches, if the UMC splits, expect traditional congregations who want to leave the church to be forced from their buildings by vengeful bishops, even if that leaves the UMC with empty buildings.


37 posted on 05/17/2016 10:37:52 AM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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To: AppyPappy

As a member of the Baltimore conference I resigned rather than face the wrath of a kangaroo court bent on the destruction of conservative ministry.


38 posted on 05/17/2016 10:38:04 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Stop the Left and save the world.)
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To: AppyPappy

>>What happened to the PCUSA will happen to the UMC. A conservative version will start up and churches will begin to cross over.

In this day, I don’t think that a conservative non-confessing denomination can exist in America with Arminian theology. The angst over the ability to lose one’s salvation opens too many doors for the SJWs to get in and disrupt. The lack of the insistence to follow a written Confession of Faith opens too many doors for reinterpretation of scripture. The Methodists on the Left like to remind us that God’s word is being continually rewritten for each generation.

Individual churches that are both conservative and Arminian can exist, but a nationwide denomination will fall every time.


64 posted on 05/17/2016 1:16:34 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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