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To: amessenger4god
1. "I must do _____ to be saved or keep doing _____ to stay saved."

"See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone." James 2:24

Yeah, that is the other book Luther wanted removed from the Bible.

16 posted on 05/17/2016 12:13:41 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive
In regards to James 2:24, see this article about James and this article about the Gospel:

"It is also true that the justification of which James speaks is not the justification of which Paul speaks. One indication of this is the timing. Abraham was justified by works "when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar" (James 2:21). This was about thirty years after he had been justified by faith (Gen. 15:6). James shows that he is sensitive to timing when he says in 2:23 that Abraham's justification by works "fulfilled" Genesis 15:6. He speaks of Genesis 15:6 as a prophecy, and of Genesis 22 as its fulfillment. Prophecy and fulfillment do not occur at the same time and are not the same thing.

What then is the nature of justification in James? James indicates this plainly in 2:18: "Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works." He is speaking about demonstrating the genuineness of faith.

In Romans 4, Paul addresses the question, How was Abraham justified? In this question, "justified" means "reckoned righteous before God," and Paul's answer is: by the imputation of Christ's righteousness, received by faith alone. But when James asks how Abraham was justified, he is assuming that Abraham already had faith. So his question really is, How was Abraham justified in claiming to have faith? In this question, justified means "judged to have made a valid claim," and James's answer is: by producing good works. The questions are different, the answers are different, the justifications are different.

Paul speaks of a justification that comes by faith and not by works, while James speaks of a justification that comes by works and not by faith. Paul teaches us that we are constituted righteous before God by faith alone. James teaches us that the genuineness of our faith is demonstrated by our works."
28 posted on 05/17/2016 12:40:08 PM PDT by amessenger4god
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To: FatherofFive
Justified in the eyes of God, or man?

Romans 3:20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

66 posted on 05/17/2016 2:36:19 PM PDT by jimmyray (there is no problem so bad that you can't make it wors)
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To: FatherofFive
So; you must be a Saved by Faith; Kept by Works kinda fella; right?
98 posted on 05/17/2016 6:39:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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