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To: Jim 0216; Zirondelle; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; ...

So what happens when someone has been seeking healing for decades and hasn’t seen it?

How do you explain that?

How do you explain Joni, Paul, Job?

Why do you demand that God perform for us as we think He should?

And if/when He doesn’t? Then what do you tell people?

That their faith is weak? Non-existant? They have sin in their lives? Generational curses to deal with?

What excuse do you give them for not receiving the healing and what do you tell them to do that will guarantee they’ll get it?

Or do you just throw it back and them and tell them they have to find out for themselves and wash your hands of the matter and tsk-tsk about how unspiritual they are?


41 posted on 05/24/2016 4:56:53 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

You turn the eternal redemption and sacrifice, grace, goodness, glory, and power of God into a disgrace and hinder those who would receive from God by “making the word of God of no effect through your tradition” (Mark 7:13).


48 posted on 05/24/2016 10:01:59 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: metmom; All
Faith is exceptionally valuable and very rare. Without it it is impossible to please God. The faith of a small little mustard seed will move a mountain. Because we haven't seen any mountains moved by faith, nor any trees uprooted and planted into the sea by faith doesn't mean that the Word of God is of none effect. It means that faith the size of a mustard seed is very, very rare. In the world faith is considered foolish. We are taught by the world and even the Church that there isn't any such thing as mountain moving faith. All of our experiences say that there isn't any such thing as mountain moving faith. We learn to rely on everything except mountain moving faith. This is why it is nearly impossible to have mountain moving faith in this world.

God does condescend to us and loves us and works for and with us at what ever level our faith is at, but he will not do sheer mighty acts of faith that counter everything in this material world without at least a tiny mustard seed of faith. If we haven't seen great and mighty miracles it isn't because He is not willing to do them. It is because we do not, in this complicated, faith consuming world know how to have the kind of faith that will allow Him to do them.

He is willing, but we are very minimal when it comes to faith. That doesn't mean that He doesn't love us and use the tiny, tiny amount of faith that we practice. It doesn't mean that we should feel guilt or condemnation or place it on others. It means that God's Word doesn't change because of what we think or what we have seen. It means that all of us have much soul searching to do. Many of us are satisfied with a minimal amount of faith, after all it is what we have been taught, and He still loves us mightily. He still responds to the amount of faith we do have. He still works through us to the level that we will believe Him to.

Jesus said that nothing is impossible with God. Jesus said that if we ask we will receive. Jesus said that the works that He did we will do and greater (because The Holy Spirit has been poured out). Jesus said that if two or more agree upon anything on earth it shall be done by our Father in Heaven. Jesus said that if we ask anything believing that it shall be done by His Father in Heaven. Jesus said that as your faith is so shall it be done onto you. Jesus made many, many statements like this. It is not His Word that is deficient, it is our faith. We may never get to the place where we even have a tiny mustard's seed worth of faith but we should try. And if we fail, though we try, God will take notice and will bless even our trying. There is therefore no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus. Let's not worry about being condemned if we fall short. Let's rather endeavor to believe in God's Word with all of our hearts, for even if we fall short, we can afford to because He loves us so much.

71 posted on 05/24/2016 4:35:48 PM PDT by Bellflower (It's not that there isn't any evidence of God, it's that everything is evidence of God.)
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