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To: ealgeone
No diversion necessary. You posted something you claimed was the Nicene Creed when in fact it wasn't. Get your facts straight.

I posted (and linked) the Nicene Creed. Arguing the point is akin to holding no one really reads or posts the Bible on the RF, which is a spurious argument. And if you're going to quote me....quote me correctly.

" As a general rule I do not subscribe to Creeds... "

That is a telling summary, and expresses the core issue in this thread.

316 posted on 05/30/2016 11:09:19 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981; verga
I posted (and linked) the Nicene Creed.

No...you posted and linked the First Council of Constantinople (381) creed which you claim is the Nicene Creed.

The First Council of Nicea (325) creed was considerably modified in in 381 at the First Council of Constantinople.

As noted before....I do not believe in creeds as a general rule. And if it's been modified by the RCC I really take a hard look at it as the RCC has modified a lot of basic theology in error.

What is interesting though in both of these creeds is the absence of any reference to Mary regarding her "assumption", "immaculate conception", "perpetual virginity"...all dogmas of the RCC.

The Constantinople Creed of 381 notes the need of baptism for the remission of sins.

Baptism does not remove sins. Faith in Christ removes sins.

This still leaves us with verga's #160 post which you fail to address as correct or incorrect. I also notice verga is not retracting that post either. Very telling. s

321 posted on 05/30/2016 11:28:09 AM PDT by ealgeone
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