Posted on 05/27/2016 2:38:07 PM PDT by NYer
Thats ALL we need is a politician that has read and understands his Bible.
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1. True enough.
2. You may be "kwazy," but you might not be wrong.
3. Also true, but it also doesn't equate NOT to be the wisest thing in the world to do before God. Are YOU the judge of MY faith? I sure don't judge YOURS.
4. WHO decides what "bath water" warrants throwing out? Who gets to judge?
There were no Protestants until 1500 years after Jesus. If the Church had been THAT bad, why was there such a HUGE hiatus in time? The "author" of Protestantism was a defrocked, disgraced former PRIEST, so that must tell you that there MIGHT be a bit of sour grapes and anger there. MIGHT. MIGHT. MIGHT. MIGHT.
5. Why did the 1500-year-old church deserve to be totally bad? It seems to me that there HAD to be some things that weren't awful. CATHOLICS collated the Bible, not Protestants. Surely that was a good thing.
6. Besides, why would I judge anyone, Protestants or even Hindus? GOD is the judge, not me.
7. The Church started "correcting" things as far back at their FIRST "COUNSEL," the Counsel of Jerusalem, 69. A.D., where the Church declared that Gentiles did NOT have to be circumcised to follow Jesus.
There have been numerous counsels over the millenia.
8. There are and have been over 40,000 different Protestant denominations over the last 500 years, come, gone and still here. (Google) Surely Jesus didn't mean that to be. Maybe I'm wrong.
Or, maybe I am just kwazy!
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Nice chatting with you, HTR.
If the church was that bad, why was God that patient?
I think that’s a rather ungrateful question to ask. God was patient on similar time lines with the Hebrew people.
The whole idea of “protesting” in its best light is, protesting FOR the sake of Christ. This will, by implication, protest against things that militate against Christ. Christ Himself protested for God and against what the chief rabbis were doing to Judaism — it’s not a new notion.
Yes, yes, yes, there are going to be people who abuse the concept and do it to indulge themselves in inherently unholy things. Those people will, at best, end up being forgotten.
It’s a human failing to be so fond of other humans that they forget God.
I think that’s a rather ungrateful question to ask. God was patient on similar time lines with the Hebrew people.
Ungrateful? I disagree. We ARE allowed to ask questions, NOT be considered "ungrateful" for asking them and YOU are assuming that I am ungrateful in my question. That's an assumption you make without even knowing me. Not very nice.
The whole idea of “protesting” in its best light is, protesting FOR the sake of Christ. This will, by implication, protest against things that militate against Christ. Christ Himself protested for God and against what the chief rabbis were doing to Judaism — it’s not a new notion.
There ARE acceptable avenues of protest. Creating an entire 40,000 array of PROTESTING Christian off-shoots, as the Protestants did, may NOT have been appropriate. Some Protestant denominations even gave up the Jewish MALE-only leadership of a faith, female vicars. Hmmmm.
Yes, yes, yes, there are going to be people who abuse the concept and do it to indulge themselves in inherently unholy things. Those people will, at best, end up being forgotten.
They won't be forgotten by God. HE is the most important.
It’s a human failing to be so fond of other humans that they forget God
That is true but a non sequitur.
You ask, why 1500 years. This translates DIRECTLY into the patience of God, which is RENOWNED.
If you really want this to be a retort-fest I could keep on and on and on.
One hurdle to understanding that I see is attempting to evaluate Protestant/evangelical churches as if they were trying to imitate the Roman Catholic community’s idea of itself. Their point is that at their ideal, they try NOT to imitate it.
How do YOU know why God did that the way He did? We only know of his relationship with the Jews. How did he treat the other 99% of humanity who didn't believe in ONE God?
I don't assume to know God's reasons for doing things the way He did. I simply accept His plans for all of us and life the best life I can.
I also TRY not to judge others...but sometimes I WONDER at some drivers who seem BENT on killing themselves and me.
Baloney: it's government control of every aspect of human existence. Some European countries have "selected socialism," which allows for some freedom to create but taxation is at 75%, at least. Most European countries USED to have the "same-think" of their cultures, so it didn't matter so much.
Letting in immigrants WILL eventually change that. No problem if immigrants are Christian. Otherwise....
Most countries outside of the West have a dictatorship of a relatively FEW stinking rich families who control the money/banks, politics, military and land...just everything.
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