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To: metmom

I have a problem with creating the person which God knew would betray Christ and then commit suicide and be condemned to Hell.....Why not do it another way and condemn no one to Hell.


5 posted on 05/30/2016 7:34:58 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: terycarl

I think if God cared about your opinion about how He does things, He would have asked you.

Did He?


6 posted on 05/30/2016 8:05:46 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: terycarl

It is an old debate whether or not Judas is in hell. For the most part, the Catholic belief is that while we can declare with certainty that certain people make it to heaven, we can not say with certainly that any individual is in hell. The Bible does not say that Judas went to hell.

Leading up to the betrayal, the Bible shows the apostles as resentful of Jesus’s waste. It almost portrays Jesus as a bit arrogant of his success, and this was what caused Judas to take an action that spiraled out of his control.


7 posted on 05/30/2016 8:07:02 PM PDT by lnbjohnson
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To: terycarl; metmom; MHGinTN; Elsie; ealgeone; Gamecock
I have a problem with creating the person which God knew would betray Christ and then commit suicide and be condemned to Hell.....Why not do it another way and condemn no one to Hell.

If the Jews had all accepted Jesus, and followed Him, it might have been done a different way. The Romans probably would have caught and killed Jesus, without any help from Judas at all.
Even the Jews thought that if the whole world followed Him, the Romans would come and take everything away. Since possibly 90% of the Jews rejected Him, and continue to reject Him 2,000 years later, He chose to do it with Judas. My opinion is, even after the betrayal, the path to eternal life was still open to Judas. He still could have fled to the savior for forgiveness, but he didn't.
Don't forget, God created the entire earth's population, maybe a couple hundred million people, then killed all but 8 in the Flood. He also ordered the Children of Israel to kill every last man, woman and child of certain people groups.
He doesn't need or want our opinion on how He operates. Sometimes we question it. Sometimes I question it, but God does what He does, and that's just the way He is going to do it.

15 posted on 05/31/2016 3:40:53 AM PDT by Mark17 (I traded my shackles for a glorious song. I'm free, praise the Lord, free at last.)
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To: terycarl
I have a problem with creating the person which God knew would betray Christ ...

Who do you think created Lucifer?

18 posted on 05/31/2016 4:48:41 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: terycarl
I have a problem with creating the person which God knew would betray Christ and then commit suicide and be condemned to Hell.....Why not do it another way and condemn no one to Hell.

Then why shop at the Pottery Barn if you do not like it's products?

28 posted on 05/31/2016 12:48:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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