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To: SGNA
A heretic, schismatic or apostate removes himself from the Office of the Papacy by his own act in the same way that he has removed himself from the Faith and thus from the Church. Since Bergoglio is all three, no problem in the least. Better still, since he was all three before being elected, he is not now nor ever was the pope as his election was "null, void and worthless".

Then why is he still in office?

Why doesn't the leadership of the Catholic church do something about him instead of letting it continue?

59 posted on 06/18/2016 6:45:44 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
Then why is he still in office? Why doesn't the leadership of the Catholic church do something about him instead of letting it continue?

The problem is, as you probably already surmised, is that they are the same as Bergoglio, namely apostates, heretics and schismatics - thus NONE of them are Catholic as well.

If they hold to the heresies of the false council of Vatican-2, then they have defected from the Faith and thus the Church by their own act.

Let me employ the following analogy. To make the New World Order victorious globally, in the military and political realm one would either have to totally subvert or take the United States off the board first as it would be the only real obstacle.. In the religious realm the same thing applies to subverting or taking out the Roman Catholic Church.

0bama and Bergoglio are merely the worst examples of a rot that has been going on for some time. Expecting the corrupt Anti-American U.S. Congress to impeach and convict 0bama is the same as expecting the now non-Catholic Vatican to declare the papal See vacant due to pre-existing or post-electoral heresy.

Almost all the people who think of themselves as "Catholic" on this forum think things would be just dandy if they could only go back to Ratzinger. The problem is that is exactly the same as stating in the political realm that everything would just be fine if we could impeach 0bama and go back to Bill Clinton.

NO ON BOTH COUNTS!

In the U.S. the problem has been there at least since Wilson was put into office and clearly owned by the puppet-masters - but the Deep State did not take total national control until JFK was taken out.

In the Roman Catholic Church although the plotting and infiltration happened much earlier, the line of demarcation is 1958 and the death of Pope Pius XII and the election of the heretical Marxist Roncalli, aka non-pope john23 who called Vatican-2 to overthrow the existing order.

The infiltration of agents by the puppet masters began a couple hundred years ago. The puppet-masters brag they took control of the Vatican finances in the 1840's 'to offer their assistance' and got some control in that fashion. The last really sound pope in matters of faith and prudential action was Pope Saint Pius X who died in 1914. During his reign he warned that "the Enemy is now within". He was only elected because fortunately the puppet-masters' heretical candidate, Rampolla, was blocked by the veto of the Emperor of Austria. Unfortunately Pius X did away with the protective veto granted to three monarchs for future conclaves.

The next three, Benedict XV, Pius XI, and Pius XII while still completely Catholic and thus still the pope were not always prudent in their actions and were liberal proteges of Rampolla.

Before the present day takeover, the college of Cardinals who elect the pope was limited to a maximum of 70 and at times it could be considerably less. In 1958 those who were able to travel to Rome, because some were behind the Iron Curtain, was only 53. Two of them while in Rome before the Conclave began died suspiciouly of heart attacks so the number voting was only 51. The truly Catholic favorite before the conclave started was Cardinal Agagianian, Primate of Armenia but a few people who had sniffed out the plot warned that Roncalli would be the eventual choice. A successful candidate needed 2/3rds plus 1 to win so all they needed to do was for the heretical members to block Agagianian while threats and blackmail was employed against other susceptible Cardinals not in the plot which eventually resulted in Roncalli the heretical Marxist.

Since he was a pre-existing heretic his election was "null, void and worthless as mentioned in this linked comment and the ones that follow.

The real Roman Catholic Church is all who are baptized who hold whole and entire all the tenets of the Faith, so while these characters have totally taken over the real estate and the physical structure, NONE of them are Catholic. To go back to the real Church, the heretical Council called by Roncalli was be totally renounced and all of his successors recognized as heretics and non-popes.

NOTHING ELSE WILL DO.

There is a provision in the material I cited that the laity may call in secular powers to remove heretics who refuse to pack their bags and vacate:

Cum Ex Apostolatus Officio of Pope Paul IV, 1559:

7.....(ii) the laity;

shall be permitted at any time to withdraw with impunity from obedience and devotion to those thus promoted or elevated and to avoid them as warlocks, heathens, publicans, and heresiarchs

To the greater confusion, moreover, of those thus promoted or elevated, if these shall have wished to prolong their government and authority, they shall be permitted to request the assistance of the secular arm against these same individuals thus promoted or elevated;

Something tells me ZERO would not be of much help in this matter, but after January, after Trump is in office, depending on how things break in the world, perhaps things could get interesting and he could rid of the Church, 'of this meddlesome pest'.

At least I hope someone out there would alert Trump to this very interesting possibility if Bergogolio continues to push the New World Order line.

I also want to mention that the conspirators want to do away with the Office of the Papacy itself and replace it with a commission whose members would rotate as chair for say a six month term. this was announced by 'cardinal' [sic] Gottfried Daneels in 2003, one of the ones responsible for giving the world Bergoglio.

163 posted on 06/19/2016 5:50:57 PM PDT by SGNA
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