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To: daniel1212
Christ is the promised Messiah

According to the "new testament." You say the "new testament" is Divinely inspired and part of the Bible? I have a great and simple idea: prove it.

and even if you reject that, the fact is that the Christ of the Scripture which Christians are to look to was Jewish, and prioritized the welfare of the Hebrew people

Not according to chrstianity as it existed for 1600 to 1800 years.

as did His apostles, and those who most strongly esteem Scripture as the wholly inspired and accurate word of God are the strongest supporters of Israel, and conservative morality. All of which evidence is contrary to your charge.

First of all, no it isn't. If the "new testament" is an imposture, then it is an imposture, regardless of how pro-Israel some chrstians might be.

Second of all, what is there about the article that isn't "pro-G-d?" Judaism was around a thousand years before chrstianity and it was pretty darn pro-G-d.

Are you saying that Jewish apologetics should be disqualified from a conservative web forum? That's pretty ironic considering that chrstianity is the new idea and has the burden of defending itself.

What's the difference between Catholic apologetics and Jewish apologetics? Why is the former all right and the latter not? Catholics, after all, are the ones who go around promoting evolution and higher criticism.

If you're implying that Americans are supposed to subscribe to "the American religion," you are denying both monotheism and objective religious truth.

76 posted on 07/21/2016 7:42:39 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; boatbums
According to the "new testament." You say the "new testament" is Divinely inspired and part of the Bible? I have a great and simple idea: prove it.

Which has the same basis for the warranted conclusion that the Hebrew Scriptures were inspired of God - and faced the like challenges from skeptics. And in fact without the NT the OT is greatly deprived of prophetic fulfillment. Or do you want to argue that Is. 53 (among some other others) refers to Israel?

and even if you reject that, the fact is that the Christ of the Scripture which Christians are to look to was Jewish, and prioritized the welfare of the Hebrew people

Not according to chrstianity as it existed for 1600 to 1800 years.

But which does not support your argument, for in light of the fact that Christianity in Scripture, and that which also most strongly upholds Scripture today is the most pro-Israel and conservative, then instead of faith in the Christ of Scripture not saving anyone, and not enabling America to be great (as if Judaism was the predominate faith that made America worth saving) you should favor this Christianity, esp. i your "ultimate interest is for the survival of Israel."

First of all, no it isn't. If the "new testament" is an imposture, then it is an imposture, regardless of how pro-Israel some chrstians might be.

The Scripture which the apostles esteem was the Hebrew Scriptures, the very body you point to, while the fact remains that those who most strongly esteem Scripture as the wholly inspired and accurate word of God are the strongest supporters of Israel, and conservative morality. Thus your argument, which trashes Christ and Christianity due to the liberal form of it, is no more valid than one who does the same to Judaism due to Jews being overwhelmingly liberal. Of course, i understand your moral argument as be a pretext to exalt Judaism.

Second of all, what is there about the article that isn't "pro-G-d?" Judaism was around a thousand years before chrstianity and it was pretty darn pro-G-d.

Because being "pro-God" means, as in the words of the owner, that "Free Republic is a pro-God site. The one and only true Judeo-Christian God...," versus your god which makes Christians into pagans. With such scornful arrogance, your post can hardly be said to represent the "pro-God" of this site.

Are you saying that Jewish apologetics should be disqualified from a conservative web forum? What's the difference between Catholic apologetics and Jewish apologetics?

You are not merely presenting Jewish apologetics, and banning is not up to me (even some Prots get booted for attacking Caths), but my point is that attacking the God this very pro-God forum overwhelming espouses, as does the owner, but which God you turn into a pagan man-God who will not save anyone, while the Christians here refute the premise that faith in Christ does not save, and who support Israel and conservative morality - is exceedingly arrogant.

What's the difference between Catholic apologetics and Jewish apologetics? Why is the former all right and the latter not? Catholics, after all, are the ones who go around promoting evolution and higher criticism.

Why is the former all right and the latter not? Catholics, after all, are the ones who go around promoting evolution and higher criticism.

True, as do many or most Jews, but if this forum was predominately Jewish, and I attacked their faith as pagan and producing liberalism, despite the Orthodox exampling the contrary, then that would be arrogant.

90 posted on 07/21/2016 12:36:11 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I have a great and simple idea: prove it.

You say Noahide laws are what's REALLY required?

Prove it!


91 posted on 07/21/2016 1:22:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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