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To: metmom
"Fatima is a demonic apparition"

This is the first I've heard of that. I know that Medjugorje has been debunked, but my understanding is that all orthodox Catholics consider Fatima a true Marian apparition. There is controversy about whether we've been allowed to know the third secret, and what it is, but the apparition itself is generally regarded as true.

There is so much dissension in the ranks of orthodox Catholics these days. There are those in the SSPX. There are those in the "New SSPX". There are those not in the SSPX who either believe the SSPX is in schism or is not in schism. There are sedevacantists. There are all sorts of views on Vatican II including that it was good, but not properly interpreted, that it was bad but still binding, that it was bad and not binding, that it is evidence that the post-conciliar church is heretical, etc.

So even being an orthodox Catholic doesn't guarantee anyone that he/she has the correct beliefs because there are so many varieties of orthodox Catholicism.

If any of the Protestant or Catholic sects are correct, then the number of saved will be in the thousands at most.

20 posted on 08/22/2016 8:14:36 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
This is the first I've heard of that. I know that Medjugorje has been debunked, but my understanding is that all orthodox Catholics consider Fatima a true Marian apparition. There is controversy about whether we've been allowed to know the third secret, and what it is, but the apparition itself is generally regarded as true.

I know Catholics believe it is a true apparition of Mary, but since there were many things in there that go against the word of God, it CAN'T be or God, much less Mary.

If any of the Protestant or Catholic sects are correct, then the number of saved will be in the thousands at most.

You don't seem to get it.

No one church is 100% correct. No one church is the *one, true, church*.

Salvation is independent of church affiliation. One is not saved by church membership, or baptism, or anything else religious. Salvation transcends denominational lines because it's faith in Christ that saves, not faith in any church.

Church is a fine thing as far as it goes, but it is NOT essential to salvation, either getting saved or staying saved.

21 posted on 08/22/2016 8:29:01 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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