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Lots to think about here.
1 posted on 08/23/2016 7:33:08 AM PDT by Salvation
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2 posted on 08/23/2016 7:34:14 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I remember you read a book that was a Catholic interpitation of the end times and St. Theresa read.


3 posted on 08/23/2016 7:38:40 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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I have a problem with the term “second coming.” I agree with the concept of a final coming in Glory, but why limit Jesus to just two visits? I believe He comes to us all of the time, and several specific times in history (such as coming in judgement, as he said he would, at the destruction of the temple).

But He will come again at the close of the age.


4 posted on 08/23/2016 7:44:30 AM PDT by impactplayer
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To: Salvation

Since the piece attacks the evangelical Protestant understanding of the end times, I feel entitled to respond.

How does a Catholic get to heaven if he is here at the moment of the Second Coming, since purgatory is required?


5 posted on 08/23/2016 8:01:41 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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“Lots to think about here. “

Amen... Thanks again.


6 posted on 08/23/2016 8:17:48 AM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Christendom, A Moral People, and Return to a Nation/s UNDER God!)
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To: Salvation; SaveFerris
The article sure is an attack on the Evangelical literal interpretation of Scripture isn't it? You can count the buzz words and phrases. Reading it, you would walk away with the implication that evangelicals that believe Scripture are a bunch of vivid lunatics, selling their houses, howling at the moon, and misguided extremists. No bias there.

Second Thessalonians means what it says and says what it means. The events of Revelation will happen. The marriage supper of the lamb is an actual event. If anyone is taking Scripture out of context or doesn't understand things, it's the guy who wrote this article.

8 posted on 08/23/2016 8:30:40 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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The Catholic Church may reject the Jewish messianic kingdom and the Fundamentalist Protestant "millennium," but it has its own version. Supposedly before the end there will be a "period of peace" when medieval chrstendom will be restored under the revived House of Bourbon or a "Great Catholic Monarch" of some kind. This is actually quite similar to the rule of Mashiach in Judaism, but that doesn't stop Catholics from criticizing the latter as a false "earthly kingdom." Meanwhile they expect their own end-time earthly kingdom, but it won't be run by J*sus, as his kingship is purely "social" and "spiritual."

There is something very funny about rejecting the literal kingship of their "messiah" in the name of spirituality while wanting the exact same thing under somebody else.

9 posted on 08/23/2016 8:31:14 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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In general, the Catholic approach to this is pretty good, though there is at least one error I commonly see that the author didn’t address. It’s very common for Catholics to misinterpret John’s vision of the woman in Revelation who is “clothed in the sun with the moon at her feet” as describing Mary. In fact, this error is so common, a lot of Mary iconography in the Catholic church portrays her this way quite literally, with a moon under her feet and the sun/stars surrounding her or on her cloak (the Virgin of Guadalupe is a good example).


12 posted on 08/23/2016 8:52:48 AM PDT by Boogieman
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19 posted on 08/23/2016 9:21:18 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Salvation
Every person should turn to Christ alone now, for eternal life. Time grows short in your own life, let alone the end-times calendar.

Abandon your dependence on your own pitiful attempts at self-righteousness and accept His righteousness alone for eternal life.

"And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.

"These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.

I John 5:11-13


21 posted on 08/23/2016 9:35:24 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Salvation

Good article. This calm and traditional understanding of the End Times has to compete against the spectacular dispensationalist predictions you see on TV and at many a church that has some sort of “prophecy conference.” I wish that the churches that have a traditional view of the Second Coming and related issues had more of an instructional or outreach program - even to the point of holding seminars and classes on this particular topic. Less something to bash premillennialism in particular, more to teach teach people what has historically been believed and understood.


22 posted on 08/23/2016 10:02:19 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Salvation
I don't concern myself with the "end times." I am going to die, at a time and place I don't now know, and I'd better be ready for that whenever it happens.
39 posted on 08/23/2016 2:57:03 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (,)
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