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To: Robert DeLong
>> We can show definitive proof that men/women have honored people as Saints. If you can provide undeniable proof that everyone who who has been proclaimed a Saint, did so with direct communication through God, then I will acquiesce. Until then it is a function controlled entirely by mankind within the hierarchy of the church structure. <<

Your own link notes there is 'no definitive "head count"' of the number of people named a saint by the Pope. The Catholic Church didn't even keep exact records of canonizations until the Middle Ages, long after the Popes had started to proclaim saints. Also, several people "officially" named saints by the Catholic Church in the past, like St. Christopher and Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln, are no longer seen as such.

So whether you believe God or the Pope is the ultimate authority of who is considered a saint (I believe its God), you will NEVER get a "definitive list" of who is a saint from either method. Sorry to disappoint.

38 posted on 09/25/2016 11:30:49 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy
Did I mention anything about a count? No. So to whom does God communicate this to, just out of curiosity?

I even stated that the Catholic church is not the only player in naming Saints, but rather the most prolific and again the church most recognized as doing so. While I never claimed to be an expert on Sainthood or the Catholic church, as that is not my religion of faith, is it not the Pope that makes that announcement?

40 posted on 09/26/2016 5:46:55 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: BillyBoy
One last thing:

Also, several people "officially" named saints by the Catholic Church in the past, like St. Christopher and Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln, are no longer seen as such.

It's comforting to know that God is not perfect and makes mistakes as well. Should he decide negatively towards me on my judgement day I will tell him he had better look again because he obviously has me confused with someone else.

Since you have convinced me that all of these proclamations come from God directly, and not mankind at all, that must be the only explanation. When he shows me the video or whatever it is that he has, I will just proclaim that I always knew there was an evil twin of me in the world. Perhaps one is capable of conning him too. At that point what would I have to lose!!!

42 posted on 09/26/2016 7:47:27 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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