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"Adultery as a venial sin"- and other absurdities of defending the indefensible Francis Doctrine
Rorate Caeli ^ | September 15, 2016 | Dr. John Lamont

Posted on 09/16/2016 8:56:16 PM PDT by ebb tide

Dr. Jeffrey Mirus on marriage and the Eucharist

Dr. Jeffrey Mirus has recently published an article entitled ‘Not heretical: Pope Francis’ approval of the Argentine bishops’ policy on invalid marriages’*. The object of this article is to argue that Pope Francis has not asserted or endorsed heresy in approving of a recent document issued by some Argentinian bishops concerning the apostolic exhortation Amoris Laetitia. To justify this conclusion, Dr. Mirus makes a number of claims about moral behaviour and the discipline of the sacraments.

These claims urgently need to be addressed.

This discussion of Mirus’s assertions will not consider the rights and wrongs of the Argentinian bishops’ document itself and the Pope’s endorsement of it. Nonetheless it should be noted that Dr. Mirus’s article is somewhat misleading on this subject, because it gives the impression that the only objectionable part of this document is the permission it gives for the divorced and remarried to receive the Eucharist. In fact the document in its paragraph 6 extends this permission to both absolution and reception of the Eucharist, and states that the divorced and remarried persons it refers to can grow in grace through these sacraments. This contents of this paragraph have been addressed by a group of Catholic scholars, who have drawn up theological censures of heretical and erroneous propositions that could be attributed to Amoris Laetitia and have asked the college of cardinals and the patriarchs of the Church to petition the Pope to condemn these propositions. These censures were sent privately, but were leaked to the media and are now publicly available. Paragraph 6 of the Argentinian bishops’ document endorses the propositions condemned in censures 6, 7, 11, 15, and 16 of the document sent to the cardinals, which are accessible here. The bishops’ statement thus has a broader scope than the issues addressed by Dr. Mirus, a scope whose extent can be grasped by considering their statement and the censures referred to above.

To do justice to this subject, it is necessary to consider the specific claims Dr. Mirus makes, and then address the general issues that underlie the question. The expression ‘divorced and remarried’ will be used for brevity in the rest of this article to refer to those Catholics who are divorced from their living spouse, civilly remarried to someone else, and do not either dissolve their civil relationship and cease all sexual relations with their civil partner, or else do not cease sexual relationships with their civil partner in a situation where dissolution of their civil partnership is ruled out by legitimate and unavoidable reasons.

Dr. Mirus’s assertions

Dr.Mirus’s article contains a number of mistaken assertions. Comment will be limited to the ones that are most significant for our subject.

1. ‘It is not incompatible with the Church’s doctrinal teaching on either marriage or Communion to argue that, under some circumstances, persons involved in invalid marriages ought to be admitted to Communion.’ The term ‘invalid marriages’ is misleading here, as it is generally used to refer to marriages entered into by Catholics in due form but later found to be invalid due to some diriment impediment whose existence was not recognised at the time the marriage was celebrated. It is not used to refer to persons who enter into a civil marriage with someone other than their spouse, which is the case being addressed here.

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2. ‘I have repeatedly made the point that the rules governing reception of Communion are disciplinary, not doctrinal.’ This is incorrect. Whatever is contained in divine revelation is doctrine. This content includes disciplinary regulations, and therefore the fact that some rule is disciplinary does not imply that it is not doctrinal. Disciplinary regulations for the reception of the Holy Eucharist are set forth by St. Paul in 1 Corinthians ch. 11. Indeed, since the Holy Eucharist is a supernatural mystery not knowable by natural reason, how else could the basic disciplinary rules for its reception be known save through divine revelation? It thus cannot be maintained that the rules governing reception of the Eucharist are disciplinary and hence are not doctrinal. Familiaris Consortio 84 acknowledges the divinely revealed basis of the discipline of not admitting adulterers to Holy Communion: ‘The Church reaffirms her practice, which is based upon Sacred Scripture, of not admitting to Eucharistic Communion divorced persons who have remarried.’

3. ‘I would argue that the following is the most likely scenario in which the presumption that only venial sin is involved may be reasonably justified: 1. An invalidly married couple has had children together, who are still at home. 2. Either the man or the woman recognizes the sinfulness of the “marriage”, regrets having entered into it, and desires now to do what is right (which in this case would be for the parents to live as brother and sister while still caring for their children as mother and father in the same household). 3. The other party refuses to live as brother and sister. 4. The other party says he (or she) will leave the family if sexual relations are refused. 5. Hence the man or woman in question continues sexual relations, in effect under duress, to ensure that his or her children are not deprived of one parent.

In this case, the continuing sins involved in the irregular union on the part of the repentant spouse would seem to be venial—on the grounds that full consent of the will to the moral evil of continued sexual relations is lacking. The sins would be rendered venial by either a very real confusion about the best course or the compulsion inherent in the particular situation, or both.’ In this scenario the possibility of confusion about the best course is excluded ex hypothesi, since it is stipulated that the person in question recognises the sinfulness of the relationship. The question is thus whether full consent of the will to sexual relations is lacking. But this full consent is clearly stated to occur. The consent is the whole point of the scenario. The person in question is described as continuing sexual relations in order to prevent their partner in adultery from leaving. Acting for that reason means knowing what you are doing – continuing sexual relations – and choosing to do it in order to obtain a goal – the continued presence of the partner in adultery. Knowing what you are doing and choosing to do it in order to obtain a desired goal is what fully voluntary action consists in. There is no exculpating infringement of the will or lack of voluntary consent in the scenario. There is a fully voluntary choice to do a wrong action, made because doing the action has a result that the agent wants to obtain. Making choices of this kind is what sin is.

The general principles underlying Catholic discipline on the reception of the Eucharist by the divorced and remarried

The law that denies the Eucharist to divorced and remarried Catholics is intended to protect three goods: 1) the good of the individual concerned, who offends God grievously by receiving communion when in a state of mortal sin (cf. 1 Cor. 11:29); 2) the good of Jesus Christ in the Holy Eucharist, which is profaned by the unworthy reception of the Eucharist; and 3) the common good of the Church, which is damaged when people in a public state of sin receive the Eucharist and thereby cause scandal to the faithful. Catholics who are divorced and civilly remarried cease to be subject to this law if they repent their sin, confess it and are absolved in the sacrament of penance, and refrain from sexual relations with their civil partner. Normally they must also dissolve their civil marriage and cease to live with their civil partner, but this requirement can be waived for serious reasons, such as the upbringing of children. The question at issue is whether Catholics who have not satisfied these conditions can be admitted to communion under some circumstances. (These conditions are specified by the law, but it is also the case that such Catholics must satisfy their duties to their actual spouses if they are to be free of mortal sin.)

The reason why these conditions are insisted on is that civilly divorced and remarried Catholics who do not satisfy them are adulterers and bigamists. Their status as adulterers is asserted several times by Our Lord himself in the Gospels (Luke 16:18, Mark 10:2-12, Matthew 5:31-2, Matthew 19:2-12; see also 1 Corinthians 7:10-11). The divine teachings condemn divorce itself as well as remarriage after divorce. The obvious meaning of these texts has always been taught by the Church as being divinely revealed. In addition, it is precisely the concession on divorce adhered to by the Pharisees that Jesus attacks as contravening God’s original intention for marriage.

With respect to the first two goods protected by this law, some have claimed that it is possible for the divorced and remarried to not be in a state of mortal sin because of individual circumstances that diminish their subjective responsibility, and that such people should be allowed to approach the Eucharist because of this lack of formal mortal sin. Amoris Laetitia 302 cites paragraphs §§ 1735 and 2352 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church in this regard. But these paragraphs refer to factors that diminish or remove subjective responsibility for individual actions, not to factors that can remove subjective responsibility for a stable and persisting choice of a way of life. And in Catholic teaching and moral theology these factors have generally been understood as reducing or eliminating responsibility in the case of persons who are trying to follow the divine law but are impeded in doing so by the factors in question. The situation of the divorced and remarried addressed by Dr. Mirus and by Amoris Laetitia is however that of persons who have no intention of conforming to divine law, and who do so in full knowledge of that law (cf. Amoris Laetitia 301).

It is difficult to identify factors that would remove moral responsibility for a choice of a gravely sinful way of life and persistence in that way of life without partially or totally removing a person’s capacity to be a voluntary moral agent. Such factors have not been shown to exist, and would be extremely rare in the situation of divorced and remarried Catholics. They are not relevant to the discipline of the sacraments, which is framed for those who are capable of moral responsibility. The existence of such factors, which has not been demonstrated, cannot justify removing the current law.

Even if some individuals can be materially but not formally guilty of adultery and bigamy in a situation where they are divorced and civilly remarried, their situation could not justify violating the third good upheld by the law. This absence of formal culpability could not be a matter of public knowledge, because the factors that would excuse the persons concerned would include internal psychological components that are not publicly observable. The faithful would be presented with Catholics outwardly in the situation of adulterers and bigamists being admitted to communion. This would cause grave scandal by undermining faith in Catholic doctrine on marriage and purity, and in the justice of the Church and her fidelity to divine teaching. It would cause particular scandal and injury to the spouses of the persons so admitted to communion, who would see the Church publicly acknowledging that their marriage and the duties owed to them could be treated as if these did not exist.

The current law is thus based on essential demands of the good of the Church. It cannot be broken without injustice, and the Church hence does not have the power to alter it. In the light of the Scriptural testimony on this subject it is probable that this discipline originates with the Apostles themselves and is a component of Sacred Tradition.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: francischurch; mirus; mortals
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To: Gamecock

Explains all those graven images of you know who catholics claim they don’t worship.


21 posted on 09/17/2016 5:40:23 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide

The Ten Comandments have been engraved in my heart by the Holy Spirit. The Ten Commandments are the only basis for human law and government that will result in a just society.

But most of all I believe that Jesus Christ was totally revealed in the Tenach and that the New Testament records the fulfilment of his first coming and reveals details of His Second Coming. And that He is coming soon.


22 posted on 09/17/2016 5:48:46 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!e)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Please look at my home page. Then look up for your redemption draws near.


23 posted on 09/17/2016 6:00:42 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!e)
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To: ebb tide
So apparently, from both your posts, you two only believe in two commandments, not the Ten Commandments.
That explains a lot considering y’alls posting history.
Make life a lot easier for you, doesn’t it?

Yes it most certainly does...I am amazed that you don't get that...If you follow the 2nd of those commandments you are following the 10...The 10 Commandments are not OUR Law, they are our schoolmaster; teacher...

The penalty for failure has been removed...Jesus paid that penalty, once, for all, for all time...

When I go about my daily life I don't even consider the 10 Commandments...They are a burden and they put a person in bondage...

24 posted on 09/17/2016 6:09:48 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: SubMareener; Iscool

I never did care for what either of you two “believe” in.

So it would be beneficial if the two of you talk amongst yourselves; I don’t have the slightest interest in your heresy.


25 posted on 09/17/2016 6:13:01 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ealgeone

So you love your neighbor’s wife as you love your own?


26 posted on 09/17/2016 6:13:59 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: rollo tomasi
Jesus mentioned something about not to worry about what goes “into” your body, but what comes “out” concerning the Law.

Naw, has nothing to do with the law...It has to do with the real condition of the heart...

Luk 6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

27 posted on 09/17/2016 6:15:12 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Dear iscool, you are mistaken about Jesus supposedly OK'ing divorce. He says divorce-remarriage is moicheia.

No I am not mistaken...Jesus says if you divorce your wife it is adultery UNLESS the divorce is due to fornication with someone else while you are married...

It has nothing to do with you finding out your wife was not a virgin when you married her...

Besides this rule applies to those under the Law, not Christians under grace...

28 posted on 09/17/2016 6:28:09 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ebb tide

Just mark the thread Catholic Caucus and we will leave you alone. Otherwise we will continue to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ.


29 posted on 09/17/2016 6:29:40 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!e)
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To: ebb tide; Salvation

If that’s how you understand it we’re gonna have to go back to ground zero. At least Christianity isn’t dropping parts of the 10 Commandments like Roman Catholicism. See salvation’s earlier post.


30 posted on 09/17/2016 6:30:00 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: SubMareener

Last time you saw a Catholic Caucus thread, you tried to get around it and you reposted it as your own. How did that go?


31 posted on 09/17/2016 6:33:24 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; SubMareener
1 Corinthians 7:11-13
"But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife."

That's good advice...But it's not the law...We are not under the law...But why don't you reference the rest of the chapter instead of just cherry picking a verse that 'appears', on its own, to bolster your opinion...

32 posted on 09/17/2016 6:34:27 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ealgeone

I don’t think you have ever left ground zero; I think you’re stuck there.


33 posted on 09/17/2016 6:34:29 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Iscool
When I go about my daily life I don't even consider the 10 Commandments...They are a burden and they put a person in bondage...

Yes, I did understand you. You have already stated you condone adultery:

We are not under the law as Christians...We are covered by grace...There is no sin in a second marriage, or a third...

34 posted on 09/17/2016 6:37:57 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Iscool
If anyone says that Jesus Christ is a redeemer in whom they are to trust but not also a lawgiver whom they are bound to obey, they are pretty badly mistaken.

I think you probably have the Gospel of John in your Bible? Jesus says there is no abolition of commandments: if we love Him, we keep His commandments.

Read John 14: “If you love me, keep my commands.
...Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them."

Look at all the timnes in the Gospels Our Lortd tells us to obey the commandments.

You'd have to go after your NT with an X-acto knife and leave it looking like a paper doily, if you cut out the plces Jesus tells us to obey the Commandments.

35 posted on 09/17/2016 7:09:29 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments." - Matthew 19:17)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Iscool
34But when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered themselves together.

35One of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him,

36“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?”

37And He said to him, “ ‘YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’

38“This is the great and foremost commandment.

39“The second is like it, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’

40“On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”

Matt 22:34-40

36 posted on 09/17/2016 7:15:32 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide; Salvation
I don’t think you have ever left ground zero; I think you’re stuck there.

I see you ignore Salvation's post on the catholic commandments that edits out the one about not making any graven images.

Care to elaborate? Either of you?

37 posted on 09/17/2016 7:17:12 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Iscool
We are not under halachic regulations: the whole panoply of ritual and kosher laws, the 613 Mitzvot, which made Israel distinctive as a "nation apart."

This is what St. Paul had to contend with: do Christian Gentiles have to live like Torah Jews? The answer is "no."

But we definitely have to obey God's moral Laws, which are universal and eternal. This is not just good advice. This is the way of Life.

And the other way, breaking the Commandments, is the way if Death:

1 Corinthians 5:9-10
Do you not know
that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not be deceived.
Neither fornicators,
nor idolaters,
nor adulterers,
nor boy prostitutes,
nor sodomites,
nor thieves,
nor covetous,
nor drunkards,
nor revilers,
nor extortioners
will inherit the kingdom of God."

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38 posted on 09/17/2016 7:22:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments." - Matthew 19:17)
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To: ealgeone

Exactly. We are being told that the Two Great Commandments comprise and summarize all the rest. Thus we are to obey the Commandments.


39 posted on 09/17/2016 7:25:33 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments." - Matthew 19:17)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
On this there is no disagreement. The problem is we cannot keep these Commandments much as we want to. We are sinners.

Thankfully, we have an Advocate in Jesus Christ the righteous. 1 John 2:1.

9If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9.

40 posted on 09/17/2016 7:32:10 PM PDT by ealgeone
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