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To: scouter
I imagine it’s because, if they were to reunite with Rome, too, then there would be two separate Catholic hierarchies in the same geographic area.

While there is some truth to that, that's a "we'll solve it when we get there" kind of problem.

The most charitable reading of the Metropolitan is that he speaks as though he is forgetting that these Eastern Catholic Churches (so-called "Uniate" Churches) exist as much more than a theoretical construct -- we are talking about an assembly of individual people with identity and conscience.

The Christians in these Churches are both Eastern AND Catholic. If we were to do as the Metropolitan desires and somehow remove the "stumbling block", would we choose to rob these people of their identity by forcing them to become Latin or rob them of their conscience by forcing them to become Orthodox? Neither is acceptable.

7 posted on 09/19/2016 6:21:02 PM PDT by GCC Catholic (Stay out of the weeds! Let's hold fast to the path and Make America Great Again!)
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To: GCC Catholic

Ukrainian orthodox and Ukrainian Catholic have always been close.

Russian Orthodox is an arm of the Russian government. Nobody in the east trusts them.

The stumbling block is not between Orthodox and Catholic, but between Russia and everyone else. Ukrainian churches want nothing to do with Russia.


8 posted on 09/19/2016 6:25:45 PM PDT by KOZ.
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To: GCC Catholic
The Russians already tried eradicating the Uniate church in the 19th century at gunpoint.

It didn't work.

12 posted on 09/19/2016 7:32:20 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: GCC Catholic

While there is some truth to that, that's a "we'll solve it when we get there" kind of problem.

The most charitable reading of the Metropolitan is that he speaks as though he is forgetting that these Eastern Catholic Churches (so-called "Uniate" Churches) exist as much more than a theoretical construct -- we are talking about an assembly of individual people with identity and conscience.

The Christians in these Churches are both Eastern AND Catholic. If we were to do as the Metropolitan desires and somehow remove the "stumbling block", would we choose to rob these people of their identity by forcing them to become Latin or rob them of their conscience by forcing them to become Orthodox? Neither is acceptable.

I agree completely. I think the Roman Catholic church has more experience, and is less suspicious of alternative kinds of structures that might be used to address the issue, such as personal prelatures (Opus Dei, and possibly the SSPX), military ordinariates, and even things like the personal ordinariates for Anglicans who have converted to Catholicism. These types of structures may be very helpful in this kind of situation, but I suspect the Orthodox patriarchs may balk at them.

14 posted on 09/20/2016 6:21:35 AM PDT by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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