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To: rollo tomasi

My original point stands, God loves but is just/righteous. This is like a spouse who still loves their former wayward marriage partner, but the love is never reciprocated. With that no contact/driven out, but the love is still there.


There is only one thing I disagree with there: “...but the love is still there.”

In the case of the lost, they are driven out of God’s presence (destroyed) and no longer a relevance to anything at all. This is how He also treated His enemies in the OT.

It’s why the lost are compared to weeds and chaff to be burned up in the furnace. Any farmer can relate to that. They grow a lot of soy where I live. The soy is harvested and they weeds get another dose of Roundup. They are simply an annoyance to be removed from the field. Nobody laments over them. Nobody talks of their love for them.

This is why I think Jesus uses this kind of analogy. It is clear to anyone who has lived in the world what the analogy means. He keeps the good grain and the weeds, chaff are removed and destroyed.


186 posted on 09/23/2016 5:45:05 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Mr. Douglas

Just in my reading today your take was clearly refuted by Paul:

“...when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might, when he comes on that day...”—2 Thessalonians 1

Annihilation has never been a sound doctrine. Jude also concurs that the warning Sodom and Gomorrah represents is one of eternal punishment. God created us in His image and we are not just to be discarded matter. The casting into the lake of fire is of PERSONS who were RESURRECTED unto judgment. Stop lying about the righteous judgment of God!


190 posted on 09/23/2016 7:53:33 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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