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To: af_vet_1981
Actually one of the Greek words John and the other NT writers uses does mean a close personal knowledge....first hand experience.

I know the concept of a personal Savior is a foreign concept to the Catholic who can only approach Christ through the priest whereas the Christian can approach Christ directly.

74 posted on 09/23/2016 7:51:11 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
The Apostles actually did know the Messiah personally, having seen, heard, and touched Him.

We can know Him by repentance, faith, and obedience.

Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations: That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.


I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.


First Peter, Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses one to nine,

Revelation, Catholic chapter three, Protestant verses eighteen to twenty one,

as authorized, but not authored, by King James,
boldness mine

86 posted on 09/23/2016 8:52:34 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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