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To: Mr. Douglas

Is this God’s way of doing things?


Jesus seems to think so:

Luk_12:5 But I’ll tell you whom to fear. Fear God, who has the power to kill you and then throw you into hell. Yes, He’s the One to fear.

God must be just. Mercy is at his discretion, he does not have to be merciful.

As much as you don’t like it. GOD MUST BE JUST, HE IS HOLY.

Until one understands what we deserve, we can never fully understand His mercy.

The very nature of your question states you want to define God because you want to decide what is right and wrong (familiar?), instead of letting him tell you who HE IS.


8 posted on 09/30/2016 12:11:29 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

And nothing there about any kind of prayer, much less a Sinner’s prayer.


11 posted on 09/30/2016 12:14:33 PM PDT by Gamecock (Gun owner. Christian. Pro-American. Pro Law and Order. I am in the basket of deplorables.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Luk_12:5 But I’ll tell you whom to fear. Fear God, who has the power to kill you and then throw you into hell. Yes, He’s the One to fear.


Yes, and the Matthew 10:28 version:
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Thing is, believers are born again. This is the birth of the spirit. The lost don’t get that. They are destroyed, first the tent they occupy (the body) and then they are destroyed (the soul).

It’s why the gift is described as “eternal life” or “immortality”. It is only offered to one side of the equation.

BTW, The word translated “hell” is actually “gehenna”. The Greek lexicon calls it “Gehenna, a valley W. and S. of Jerusalem.”

It’s a garbage dump. And that is the fate of the lost. They are thrown out like garbage. Or, in other analogies he uses, they are burned up like weeds. They are simply removed from existence.


12 posted on 09/30/2016 12:28:11 PM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: PeterPrinciple

The very nature of your question states you want to define God because you want to decide what is right and wrong (familiar?), instead of letting him tell you who HE IS.


No, what I want to do is study His word and understand how He deals with His human enemies, regarding this issue. He calls them all sorts of names in His word but, ultimately, they are removed from the chess board. They are cast out, burned up. Destroyed. Killed. Perish. Etc.

I get this from His word.

And over and over again it points out, regarding the fate of the lost, that their fate is eternal. They’re not coming back.

A lot of people get hung up on the word, “punishment”. It means many things, one of which is consequences. It can also mean suffering, but that is to teach the sufferer a lesson. In the case of the lost after the GWTJ, that time has passed.


13 posted on 09/30/2016 12:32:32 PM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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