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To: Tao Yin
Ecumenism is the goal, but that doesn't mean it's easy or even possible in this world.

"Ecumenism" is not the goal and it never has been. The goal is salvation and it's only through the Catholic Church that one can achieve it.

P.S. Martin Luther didn't appear to be ecumenical.

11 posted on 10/18/2016 1:24:35 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
P.S. Martin Luther didn't appear to be ecumenical.

Quote Martin Luther, "Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason - I do not accept the authority of the popes and councils, for they have contradicted each other - my conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and I will not recant anything for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. God help me. Amen."

The Catholic Church kicked Martin Luther out. Catholic of his day wanted to burn him at the stake. The Roman Emperor, a Catholic, said is was ok to kill Martin Luther without penalty. Even Catholics of today bemoan the fact that Martin Luther wasn't killed.

Ecumenism doesn't mean everyone agrees with the Catholic Church or else. It appears we can't even agree on salvation.

The goal is salvation and it's only through the Catholic Church that one can achieve it.

No thanks. That's not why I'm saved.

And you can keep you Pope. If my pastor or the president of my synod said the things that your Pope said, we'd take him aside and have a discussion. If he didn't change his ways, we'd have a larger discussion. And if he still didn't change his ways, he'd be out the door. Shame on the Catholic Church for allowing this Pope to spout gibberish.

Why is the Catholic Church position that people have to accept their opinion without question, but then state you have to take the Pope's statements with discernment? Submit to the Pope, but sometimes he doesn't know what he's talking about. His word is infallible, but only in some situations. Catholic's complain about "Your own personal interpretation of scripture", but then leave Catholics in the position to selectively parse when the Pope is off his meds.

13 posted on 10/18/2016 3:04:07 PM PDT by Tao Yin
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