One predicts that America is to fall, the other predicts that America is to rise again.
Remember the Cold War saying, "better dead than red?"
The election is like that. Freedom vs. bondage. Now everyone "knew" that Joseph was dead, or at least had been hauled off by the slave merchants never to be heard from again.
Red = Edom (the political Establishment)
"Dead" = Joseph (We the People)
Gen 45
25. And they went up from Egypt, and came to the land of Canaan to Jacob their father:
26. And told him, saying, Joseph is yet alive, and he is governor over all the land of Egypt; And Jacob's heart fainted, for he believed them not:
27. And they told him all the words of Joseph, which he had said to them; and when he saw the wagons which Joseph had sent to carry him, the spirit of Jacob their father revived:
28. And Israel said, It is enough; Joseph my son is yet alive; I will go and see him before I die:
he is governor over all the land of Egypt (house of bondage)
governor = mashal = parable
Joseph is yet alive, and he is a parable over all the house of bondage.
Note the name/identity change from vs 27 to 28. When Jacob revived after this news about Joseph, it was Israel who spoke.
"God prevails"
Jacob's name was changed to Israel when he prevailed over the sar of Eisav, aka Samael. Uncle Sam = US government.
Samael (angel of death, accuser) is spiritual prince (sar) over DC (and the media and Hollyweird). Who doesn't know that? Uncle Sam - he's not merely a crazy uncle, he's the worst kind of predacious uncle.
The number of cryptic connections that can be made from English translations of the bible is literally unending.
An equal number of opposing conclusions can be taken from the same scriptures you mentioned.
I recommend a more broad view of what the prophecy is saying to determine where we are on God’s timeline. I cannot say for sure that any prophecy in the bible is directly referencing America. There are certainly some which present strong evidence, but we should stay focused on the apple of God’s eye which is Israel and our Savior Who is Jesus Christ.
Prophecy is not intended to foretell future in America.
It is intended to validate God’s word as a sign to the unbeliever.