Posted on 11/16/2016 4:06:25 AM PST by marshmallow
“Its not just Bishops that covered it up. It is also Cardinals and Archbishops.”
Whether Cardinal or Archbishop - they were ALL bishops. That’s why I used the proper title - “bishops”.
“It is a Catholic Church cover up.”
No. It was not universal, not part of universal practice or doctrine, not part of the catechism, and not the teaching or practice of any pope. It was not a “Catholic Church cover up.” But someone predisposed to the ridiculous might conclude otherwise.
Marcial Maciel
How long?
Yet, the Catholic Church covered it up over and over and over again all across the world. Yes, Archbiships and Cardinals covered it up
Not about Money. Sure...ahem. Ask Sodano
https://www.ncronline.org/news/accountability/how-fr-maciel-built-his-empire
“Do you believe the Holy Spirit made a mistake during the last conclave?”
Do you still beat your wife? That’s almost the sort of question you’re asking here. Did the Holy Spirit make a “mistake” at the conclave which chose Pope Leo X? How about John XII?
Sometimes the Holy Spirit uses men who we ultimately find wanting to accomplish things that are part of a plan we don’t fully understand.
“Not about Money. Sure...ahem. Ask Sodano”
Maciel wasn’t a bishop, or archbishop, or cardinal. We were talking about the wider Church and not just one religious order. You seem so desperate to prove. . . something, anything and it’s not working.
“Yet, the Catholic Church covered it up over and over and over again all across the world. Yes, Archbiships and Cardinals covered it up”
Nope. The Catholic Church never covered up the abuse. Individuals did what they did. The Catholic Church never abused a child, nor covered up the abuse of a child.
So your church, the self-proclaimed Kingdom of God on earth, is lead by the doctrines of men rather than the Holy Spirit?
http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Item/549/the_allegations_against_cardinal_sodano.aspx
SODANO AND MACIEL
Regarding Father Maciel, Cardinal Sodano is accused of taking substantial amounts of money in order to help the Legion ingratiate itself with the Vatican. This allegedly led Sodano to hinder investigations into Maciel, beginning in 1998 when ex-Legion victims filed a canonical case against Maciel with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. According to Berry, Cardinal Sodano pressured Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, then the congregations prefect, to halt the proceedings.
You seem to be intent on covering it up. Because someone so well versed as you should know all about Sodano.
Why is it that you just seem to forget to mention that Sordano was a CARDINAL covering up sexual abuse..called it petty gossip
And for those making the ludicrous claim that the Catholic Church isnt filled with politics and power struggle
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2014/06/16/fall-vice-pope-bertone/
“SODANO AND MACIEL”
One order. You’re proving my point for me.
The DEAN of the College of Cardinals
Cardinal Sodano appears to have an exceptionally sinister record of shielding abusers, particularly eminent ones, which goes back many years. He blocked a 1995 investigation into subsequently proven accusations of child abuse against Schönborns predecessor as Archbishop of Vienna, Hans Hermann Groër. The most shameful episode was his consistent defence over decades of Fr Marcial Maciel Degollado, founder of the Legion of Christ. And, according to reports in the National Catholic Reporter, he had his reasons: he stands accused of receiving a great deal of money and other benefits from the Legion of Christ. In 1998, according to reports, Sodano halted investigations into sexual abuse by Maciel then being carried out by the CDF. One of Pope Benedicts first actions was to depose Maciel and forbid him to function as a priest.
Covering up abuse Not about Money or Power or Greed???? ROFLMAO
Come one..why do you pretend ..or do you just not know. What about Groër
“You seem to be intent on covering it up. Because someone so well versed as you should know all about Sodano.”
I do know all about Sodano. You keep forgetting he WAS A BISHOP - and therefore is part of what I posted earlier. Thinking logically, try it.
“Why is it that you just seem to forget to mention that Sordano was a CARDINAL covering up sexual abuse..called it petty gossip”
He is a BISHOP. I covered that in post number 73. Why do you keep posting as if that didn’t happen?
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commen
Why would a poster here who claims to be an historian and knows all about the Catholic Church LIE about Soando and Groër
“Come one..why do you pretend”
Why do you keep pretending that this was not covered in post #73?
“..or do you just not know. What about Groër”
Bishop. Covered in post #73. You just keep proving my point over and over again.
Cardinal Hans Hermann Gröer
tell us about him
Did Cardinal Schönborn state that Angelo Cardinal Sodano blocked his attempt to investigate Groër
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