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Beneath Her Compassion
Glory to God for All Things ^ | 11-19-2016 | Fr. Stephen Freeman

Posted on 11/20/2016 10:43:00 AM PST by NRx

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Among the greater mysteries of the New Testament are those surrounding the Mother of God. A large segment of modern Christianity has become tone deaf in this regard, a result of centuries of antagonism towards certain aspects of older tradition. It is a deafness that grieves my heart, primarily in that it represents a great gulf within the broader experience of the faith. A few years after my reception into the Orthodox Church, a friend from my Anglican past asked me if I ever thought of returning. He had no idea of how foreign the thought was to me. But within my mind, the first thought was the absence of Mary. I think I said something to the effect that I could never consider leaving “my mother.”

I’m not sure what those who are strangers to Mary imagine goes on in the life of an Orthodox or Catholic Christian. I cannot speak for Catholics (they’re more than capable of speaking for themselves). First, I know that there is nothing even remotely like worship accorded to her. The entire experience of veneration seems to have been lost within Protestant thinking. I often use examples of patriotic feeling, or some such inadequate experience, to suggest analogies. But, in truth, it is an experience that has no parallel.

For one, I have no conception of Mary apart from Christ. She is not someone-in-herself to be considered alone. The traditional title affirmed by the 3rd Ecumenical Council is “Theotokos,” the “Birthgiver of God.” In the same manner, we say of Christ, “born of the Virgin Mary.” Christ is the God become man, and His humanity is utterly and completely derivative of Mary. He is bone of her bone and flesh of her flesh. It is the nature of our humanity that if we speak of His Body and Blood, we cannot do so in a manner that excludes her from that reality.

But saying this can easily be lost in words of doctrine. Doctrine is always a discussion of reality, and it is the reality we want rather than the words. The Body and Blood of Christ are not an abstraction. They are a sweet warmth within the experience of the believer. How would I describe to the non-Christian the experience of communion? There are no words that I would ever exchange for that singular taste.

The oldest known devotion to Mary can be found in the words of a hymn that is documented to have existed and been sung before the middle of the 3rd century. It remains a very important hymn within Orthodoxy to this day:

Beneath your compassion,
We take refuge, O Theotokos:
do not despise our petitions in time of trouble;
but rescue us from dangers,
only pure, only blessed one.

Anyone who might suggest that this hymn represents some pagan-importation is simply historically ignorant. The 3rd century is the great century of martyrs when the Church was in constant conflict with the official paganism of the Empire. There is no historical legitimacy for a claim of a paganizing of the faith during this period. Honoring Mary, including asking her intercessions, was perfectly at home within the mind of the primitive Church.

But what heart first uttered this cry to the compassion of the Theotokos? How did the Church learn of such a thing? That compassion is well described, for it was prophesied in Scripture.

At the time of Christ’s presentation in the Temple (at 40 days of age), Mary is warned about his coming role in Israel, and told that “a sword will pierce your own soul also” (Lk 2:34-35). This is more than maternal grief. Her union with Christ, expressed in the words of her innocent humility, rendered her uniquely vulnerable at the Cross. Christ is wounded for our transgressions, but she is wounded as well. The Church’s instinct and experience says that she is vulnerable to the sufferings of all.

The word translated “compassion” (εὐσπλαγχνία) is itself worth noting. It seems to be a Greek effort to translate a Hebrew word (רַחֲמִים  rachamim) and indicates a deep pain identified with the womb. It is the very deep heart of maternal suffering.

The fear of this experience and knowledge, I suspect, is driven by the centuries-old accusation of “Mary-worship,” as well as an idea that anything or anyone given honor other than God represents competition for God, and denigrates His glory. People might argue with the form that honor has taken over the centuries (icons, candles, hymns, prayers, etc.), but at no time has there ever been any intention of offering worship. Indeed, that would be condemned as the worst of heresies.

But we have forgotten the ancient Christian ethos of honor and veneration. The Scriptures nowhere describe God as “alone.” Instead, He is consistently depicted as the Lord of “Hosts” (a vast crowd). The God made known in Christ is a relational God who is Himself described as “love.” The honor and veneration given to the saints within the Church is simply the liturgical expression of love. It is not worship. Generations of Christians, however, have become estranged from the court of Christ, and fancied the Kingdom either as a democracy, or the King without His entourage. They have forgotten the place of the King’s mother and the honor due His friends. In short, we have become rude in our spiritual bearing and made ourselves strangers to heaven.

God is a generous God, quick to forgive. He has not allowed us to destroy the ethos or the witness of the Apostles’ successors. The reality of His heaven abides. We can regain was has been lost, beginning, perhaps, with careful consideration of the doctrine and practice involved (free of passions and mischaracterizations). But only time and usage heal what is essentially a relational matter.

Perhaps reciting the words of that ancient hymn that has found its place on the lips of saints through the ages would be a good place to begin.

We need all the friends we can find!

Written in honor of the Feast of the Entrance of the Mother of God into the Temple, November 21


TOPICS: Apologetics; Orthodox Christian; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: astarte; catholic; isis; motherofosirus; queenofheaven
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1 posted on 11/20/2016 10:43:00 AM PST by NRx
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To: NRx
First, I know that there is nothing even remotely like worship accorded to her.

That statement is refuted by the picture above the article..

2 posted on 11/20/2016 10:51:08 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: NRx

As the saying goes, derived from the miracle at Cana: “To Jesus through Mary.”


3 posted on 11/20/2016 10:52:25 AM PST by Steelfish
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To: NRx

Our Lord Jesus, the creator of the universe, is very generous in giving us His mother as friend and confidant. Apart from Him, she can do nothing. But whatever she asks of Him, He will not deny. As also can be said of Joseph, her most chaste spouse. The Father put the care of mankind’s salvation in the capable hands of Joseph. Jesus, Mary and Joseph, the most holy family.


4 posted on 11/20/2016 10:54:23 AM PST by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: Right Brother
That statement is refuted by the picture above the article..

SSHHHH. Mustn't point out the obvious.

5 posted on 11/20/2016 10:59:24 AM PST by BipolarBob (Hillary "Elect me and every Tuesday will be Soylent Green day!".)
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To: NRx

Thank you for your cogent, stirring words from the heart!


6 posted on 11/20/2016 11:05:15 AM PST by xelliott123 (World Youth Day)
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To: NRx

She had a rough life.


7 posted on 11/20/2016 11:11:48 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Montana_Sam
Our Lord Jesus, the creator of the universe, is very generous in giving us His mother as friend and confidant. Apart from Him, she can do nothing. But whatever she asks of Him, He will not deny. As also can be said of Joseph, her most chaste spouse. The Father put the care of mankind’s salvation in the capable hands of Joseph. Jesus, Mary and Joseph, the most holy family.

Wow, so many unbiblical statements in that small paragraph. No wonder Catholics frequently depict our Lord and Savior as a baby Jesus dependent on his mother.
8 posted on 11/20/2016 11:12:56 AM PST by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: NRx
Of course, the older traditions (Catholic, Orthodox, etc.) have jettisoned Adam and Eve and the first eleven chapters of Genesis solely because of their association with an ethno-cultural community they look down their noses on . . .

. . . but never mind. That's "different."

9 posted on 11/20/2016 11:16:56 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Of course, the older traditions (Catholic, Orthodox, etc.) have jettisoned Adam and Eve and the first eleven chapters of Genesis solely because of their association with an ethno-cultural community they look down their noses on . . . . . . but never mind. That's "different."

Really?
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10 posted on 11/20/2016 11:37:14 AM PST by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: Right Brother

So you believe that the THOUGHTS of the kneeling woman are visible in a PHOTOGRAPH?

She is kneeling in veneration, not adoration. Where in the photograph do you see evidence that she is not kneeling in veneration?


11 posted on 11/20/2016 11:41:50 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: NRx
"Little children, keep yourselves from idols."

Apostle John

12 posted on 11/20/2016 11:42:02 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Montana_Sam
"Our Lord Jesus, the creator of the universe, is very generous in giving us His mother as friend and confidant. Apart from Him, she can do nothing. But whatever she asks of Him, He will not deny."

Not biblical.

Even worse, it is contrary to the teaching of Scripture, that instructs us to approach the Father's throne with boldness.

It ignores the great teaching in Romans that we have the Holy Spirit interceding for us with words too deep to utter. It ignores the teaching of this great passage that says we have Christ Himself as our Advocate before the Father.

13 posted on 11/20/2016 11:45:20 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Arthur McGowan
So you believe that the THOUGHTS of the kneeling woman are visible in a PHOTOGRAPH?

She is kneeling in veneration, not adoration. Where in the photograph do you see evidence that she is not kneeling in veneration?

Interesting. By the bolded, her THOUGHTS are apparently visible to you..

14 posted on 11/20/2016 11:48:40 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: NRx
Thank you for posting Fr. Stephen Freeman --- on of the finest thinkers and writers 21st century Christianity has on tap.

If you post him every day, I will never say "Enough!"

15 posted on 11/20/2016 11:53:46 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." - Daniel P. Moynihan)
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To: Right Brother; NRx
This comment seems to come from your assumption that there is nothing to distinguish veneration practiced by Christians (or Jews, for that matter) vs adoration practiced by Christians or Jews.

All we see from the picture is that the woman is kneeling before an icon. She is an Orthodox Christian, which we can tell by the style of her clothes and veil, the priest's manner of dressing, the interior architecture of the church, and most of all by the style of the icon. And their Faith, as such, instructs them that adoring Mary or any creature is forbidden by the First Commandment.

It is a reasonable assumption that she is acting within, and not in defiance of, her monotheistic, Trinitarian Faith. The only reasonable conclusion is that she is venerating Mary.

Now in this I ask you to examine your own reactions If you saw a picture of David prostrating to Jonathan (1 Samuel 20:41) or Abigail prostrating to David (1 Samuel 25:23) would it be reasonable to assume that David adored princes, or that Abigail adored kings?

I suspect not. I would credit you with knowing enough about Biblical culture to realize that there were grades and degrees of honors, and that the lower honors did not compete with, or detract from, the highest, the ultimate adoration due to the Supreme Being and to Him alone.

Fr. Freeman makes the point that "The whole experience of veneration seems t have been lost within Protestant thinking." I think he is partially but not totally correct in this. I have seen Baptist widows kiss their husbands' caskets. This is an example of sincere veneration which is not at all confused with adoration.

16 posted on 11/20/2016 12:20:27 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Whatever is true, honorable, right, pure, lovely, excellent, worthy of praise: dwell on these things)
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To: Old Yeller; NRx
"No wonder Catholics frequently depict our Lord and Savior as a baby Jesus dependent on his mother."

But this is a wonderful thing, is it not? It is the miracle of the Incarnation with all of its million human aspects of vulnerability and dependency.

Jesus hanging on the Cross also shows his dependent and vulnerable humanity. And Mary was there for it all: from His first cellular division in her womb, His first swallow of her milk, to His last dying breath.

She was the witness, without compare, of His Divine Humanity.

Satanists boil with hatred over this, and "edgy" blasphemous modern artists mock it.. I think it is beautiful beyond all telling.

17 posted on 11/20/2016 12:32:46 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Whatever is true, honorable, right, pure, lovely, excellent, worthy of praise: dwell on these things)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

This distinction between adoration vs veneration should be easily resolved. What do the Apostles say in Scripture should be offered to Mary, veneration or adoration?


18 posted on 11/20/2016 12:39:23 PM PST by Chaguito
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To: Right Brother
That statement is refuted by the picture above the article.

And the Marine captain in the picture below must also be worshipping her lost comrade:

You should not be so quick to judge. Catholic and Orthodox Christians can distinguish between worship and veneration even if you are not.

19 posted on 11/20/2016 12:59:50 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

Sorry. That should have read: “even if you cannot.”


20 posted on 11/20/2016 1:01:13 PM PST by Petrosius
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