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To: marshmallow
I've see nothing in the transcripts of the Pope's remarks which indicates any disinction between "those who are truly lost" (as you put it) and those who are "genuine Christians" (as you put it). My understanding is that his condenmation of proselytism is a blanket condemnation. He's saying "we don't proselytize....period".

Maybe it was the FIRST part of the beginning sentence of this thread: "Proselytism among Christians..."?

The word "hammering" is Francis-talk. That's how he views proselytism. It's a pejorative term. Spreading the faith doesn't have to be that way. The author of the article and similar converts don't feel they've been "hammered". They're grateful for being brought to the fullness of the truth.

I don't believe that Roman Catholicism has the "completeness" or the "fullness" of the Christian faith. If I did, I would have stayed.

112 posted on 11/30/2016 7:02:41 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
Maybe it was the FIRST part of the beginning sentence of this thread: "Proselytism among Christians..."?

On that occasion he was talking about proselytism among Christians. But in his conversations with the Italian atheist Eugenio Scalfari, for instance, he was equally insistent that proselytism is "solemn nonsense" and that he would not attempt to convert him. In fact, I believe this was where Francis first raised the subject of proselytism, although he has returned to it on several occasions since then.

I don't believe that Roman Catholicism has the "completeness" or the "fullness" of the Christian faith. If I did, I would have stayed.

Of course.....that's my point. I would expect members of any religion to hold similar convictions.

113 posted on 11/30/2016 7:36:47 PM PST by marshmallow
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