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“Its time you and your cohorts actually answer some questions...Then as one who professes to uphold historical RC teaching, do you you honestly yearn to see a Catholic monarchy rule this nation, and the medieval temporal powers of Catholic church and the Inquisition regained?...”

The one holy Catholic Apostolic Church yields to the 1917 Code of Canon Law.

It was brought about to enable the current Catholic to know what is authentic Christianity as compared to numerous assertions and versions of what may contain the true faith.

It is my understanding that anything absent from it is not necessary to hold as a Christian.

As the astute historian you present yourself as, how familiar with this event of its creation and with its content are you?


1,058 posted on 01/18/2017 10:06:51 PM PST by Repent and Believe (The Son of Man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? Jesus Christ (Luke 18:8))
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To: Repent and Believe
As the astute historian you present yourself as, how familiar with this event of its creation and with its content are you?

Could you explain how it is relevant?

1,075 posted on 01/19/2017 4:55:22 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Repent and Believe; daniel1212; Elsie
The one holy Catholic Apostolic Church yields to the 1917 Code of Canon Law.

It was brought about to enable the current Catholic to know what is authentic Christianity as compared to numerous assertions and versions of what may contain the true faith.

Wait.... what????

If took the Catholic church 1900 YEARS to establish what is needful for the current Catholic to know what authentic Christianity is?

You mean that Scripture (which y'all claim the Catholic church wrote and gave the world) isn't good enough?

That the church failed in transcribing it so they needed to correct it over and over again?

And we should trust you now for just what reason? If you didn't get it right the first 1900 years, why would you expect anyone to think that you got it right now?

1,080 posted on 01/19/2017 5:01:03 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Repent and Believe
The one holy Catholic Apostolic Church yields to the 1917 Code of Canon Law. It was brought about to enable the current Catholic to know what is authentic Christianity as compared to numerous assertions and versions of what may contain the true faith. It is my understanding that anything absent from it is not necessary to hold as a Christian.

That does not answer the questions. Show me how the 1917 code disallows the use of such coercive power, and the pope Pontiff to inflict penalties upon heads of states, and disallows a Catholic monarchy, and answers the question as to whether you wish for such, with its powers.

As the astute historian you present yourself as, how familiar with this event of its creation and with its content are you?

A fair researcher is all i would claim, and you can read much about it here (Edward N. Peters) and its impetus, or briefly here , and much more on the 1983 revision. And i know that canon law itself is changeable, and Catholics can fantasize about the restitution and powers of a Catholic theocracy, about which you were asked. you

Tell me if and why you would disagree with the teaching of the Baltimore catechism here:

Q. 539. What do we mean by the "temporal power" of the Pope?

A. By the temporal power of the Pope we mean the right which the Pope has as a temporal or ordinary ruler to govern the states and manage the properties that have rightfully come into the possession of the Church.

Q. 540. How did the Pope acquire and how was he deprived of the temporal power?

A. The Pope acquired the temporal power in a just manner by the consent of those who had a right to bestow it. He was deprived of it in an unjust manner by political changes. - http://baltimore-catechism.com/lesson12.htm :

1,100 posted on 01/19/2017 7:24:30 AM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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