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To: metmom

Furthermore, if it is God’s will that all be saved, and yet not all are saved, then God is not omnipotent.


276 posted on 02/23/2017 4:52:51 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51
Furthermore, if it is God’s will that all be saved, and yet not all are saved, then God is not omnipotent.

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.

Acts 17:24-31 The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in temples made by man, nor is he served by human hands, as though he needed anything, since he himself gives to all mankind life and breath and everything.

And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place, that they should seek God, and perhaps feel their way toward him and find him. Yet he is actually not far from each one of us, for “‘In him we live and move and have our being’; as even some of your own poets have said, “‘For we are indeed his offspring.’

Being then God's offspring, we ought not to think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of man. The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent, because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.”

I'm going to be doing a study on what Scripture says God's will is and see what verses I can find that talk about it.

The problem I see with the idea that you can't thwart God's will is that if everything that happens is His will, then that makes Him responsible for for all the evil in the world.

Can someone honestly say that ISIS burning people alive, abortion, homosexuality, the sin we commit every day is God's will for us and under His control? I can't go there.

Every command that God gives us is an expression of His will for us.

And yet the reality is that in effect, His will is thwarted every day.

Does that mean He's not omnipotent? I don't think it does.

The only way I see it being an affront to His omnipotence is if He Himself controlled every thought, every action, every decision, everything in this entire universe. If He did, then no, no one would be able to resist His will.

However, He did give man dominion over the earth. He decided to give him a measure of control over what happens here. Would that not also be an expression of His will?

I am not trying to make light of this in the least but since I see a creation in rebellion against God, and what I understand of the nature of God and His desire for the best for us as He has revealed it to us, I don't see that mankind going against His will means He's not omnipotent.

283 posted on 02/23/2017 6:24:26 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: kosciusko51
Furthermore, if it is God’s will that all be saved, and yet not all are saved, then God is not omnipotent.

Does God make mistakes? Has He ever reversed his handiwork?

Einstein believed the Almighty doesn't play dice. I'm not so sure, perhaps not with the cosmos, or physical world, but at least when it comes to the creation of beings, in His own image, we see the element of chance present.

We ourselves practice the art of releasing our creations, our children, into a world fraught with danger - for who could ever keep them locked away for their entire lives?

For whatever reason, this world contains elements of risk/danger - that's unmistakable.

295 posted on 02/23/2017 8:03:15 AM PST by amorphous
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