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To: AppyPappy
Yes but we would be arguing that Jesus chose Judas specifically for him to fail.

Jesus didn't choose him TO fail.

Jesus chose him knowing what he would do.

No way Jesus is going to set someone up to fail.

IOW Judas was condemned from the moment he was chosen.

Judas was condemned before he was chosen. He was never saved in the first place.

How is that any different from God raising up Pharaoh?

29 posted on 02/20/2017 7:03:17 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

“Jesus didn’t choose him TO fail.
Jesus chose him knowing what he would do.”

Which was fail. He failed because he was chosen to fail. If he hadn’t been chosen, he would not have failed.
That’s why it is a self-fulfilling prophesy. It is speculation.

The text says “He was chosen and then he failed”. It just says, at some point, Jesus was aware Judas was going to fall. It doesn’t say when but we are made aware of it at the Last Supper.

God hardened Pharoah’s heart.


32 posted on 02/20/2017 7:27:09 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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