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To: metmom

You can abandon it. Many people do this.

Judas was a Disciple.


7 posted on 02/20/2017 5:54:23 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: AppyPappy

Excellent point.

“You are the salt of the earth. But what good is salt if it has lost its flavor? Can you make it salty again? It will be thrown out and trampled underfoot as worthless.”

Matthew 5:13

A good devotional on it here:

http://www1.cbn.com/devotions/salt-of-the-earth


14 posted on 02/20/2017 6:13:09 AM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: AppyPappy

But then the question was if he was ever really saved.

He was helping himself to money from the money bag all along.

So while he walked and fellowshipped with Jesus and heard His teaching and saw the miracles, his heart was not regenerated.

If he thought Jesus was right about being the Messiah, then he was likely in it for himself and what he could get out of it, out of being part of the inner circle.

Jesus knew what Judas was going to do when He picked him. And that’s WHY he picked him.

Lots of people can like church and being with Christians and some, no doubt, go through all the religious activities and motions and say the right words, but are in it for the big fish in a small pond aspect of it.

I don’t know that you can walk away from it.

What are the verses that support that point of view?


15 posted on 02/20/2017 6:15:01 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: AppyPappy
JESUS told you that He chose the Disciples and one of them was a devil. Do you want to tell us Judas was saved and lost his salvation?

What did Paul tell the Corinthians to do with one in their midst, and to what end/purpose? ... So that the spirit may be saved ...

18 posted on 02/20/2017 6:26:08 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: AppyPappy
1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
21 posted on 02/20/2017 6:32:05 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: AppyPappy

He was also predestined to betray Jesus.


36 posted on 02/20/2017 8:04:16 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: AppyPappy
You can abandon it. Many people do this.

Salvation is a spiritual operation performed by God...God puts the Holy Spirit inside your body...Wherever you go, the Holy Spirit goes...You can ignore him but you can not remove him and God will not remove him...

167 posted on 02/20/2017 9:36:46 PM PST by Iscool
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