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The Importance of Sound Doctrine
Man: The Dwelling Place of God ^ | A. W. Tozer

Posted on 02/28/2017 7:05:04 AM PST by metmom

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To: Candor7

**US Christianity has a lot of house cleaning to do before claiming any ground of exclusive righteousness.***

“Why does He eat with tax collectors and SINNERS?”

When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.


21 posted on 02/28/2017 8:16:37 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (GAY MARRIAGE- Like declaring a dog's tail to be a leg giving a dog 5 legs. But it is still a tail!)
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To: FatherofFive; Tao Yin
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

John 17:17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.

So which Church? There can't be multiple 'Truths'

No "church" (denomination).

The Truth is Jesus and Scripture, not any one church.

No one organization calling itself a church is the Truth.

No one organization calling itself a church is the sole repository of the truth.

No one organization calling itself a church has a monopoly on the Truth.

Truth is found in the Word.

So of course there can't be more than one truth.

The true church, the true body of born again/born from above believers, upholds the truth revealed in Scripture.

22 posted on 02/28/2017 8:17:48 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ealgeone

Seems that they are and still not getting it.


23 posted on 02/28/2017 8:18:32 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Campion

What?

You think sound doctrine isn’t important?


24 posted on 02/28/2017 8:19:35 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
So of course there can't be more than one truth.

So which 'Church' is the pillar and foundation of Truth?

“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” 1Tim 3:15

25 posted on 02/28/2017 9:47:52 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: metmom
The Truth is Jesus and Scripture, not any one church.

So when Jesus and Scripture both say, "This IS My Body", you believe that literally?

26 posted on 02/28/2017 9:52:32 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

When Jesus says *I am bread* do you take that literally? Is Jesus made of wheat flour?

When Jesus says, *I am the door*, do you take that literally? Is Jesus made of wood?

When Jesus says, *I am the vine* do you take that literally? Is He a plant?


27 posted on 02/28/2017 9:55:06 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: FatherofFive

The church is the body of believers, not any one denomination which puts itself forth as the OTC.

And certainly not the Catholic church which makes up stuff as it goes along and claims that it’s the truth.


28 posted on 02/28/2017 9:56:35 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
The church is the body of believers, not any one denomination which puts itself forth as the OTC. And certainly not the Catholic church which makes up stuff as it goes along and claims that it’s the truth.

So which 'Church' teaches the Truth?

29 posted on 02/28/2017 10:21:22 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: metmom
So when Jesus and Scripture both say, "This IS My Body", you believe that literally?

What Church teaches that?

30 posted on 02/28/2017 10:23:35 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

Any church that teaches Scripture is the Truth.


31 posted on 02/28/2017 10:46:59 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: FatherofFive
I believe God when He says this about eating blood.

Don't eat the blood, the life is in the blood

Genesis 9:4 But you shall not eat flesh with its life , that is, its blood.

Leviticus 3:17 It shall be a statute forever throughout your generations, in all your dwelling places, that you eat neither fat nor blood.”

Leviticus 7:26-27 Moreover, you shall eat no blood whatever, whether of fowl or of animal, in any of your dwelling places. Whoever eats any blood, that person shall be cut off from his people.”

Leviticus 17:10-14 “If any one of the house of Israel or of the strangers who sojourn among them eats any blood, I will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from among his people. For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, No person among you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger who sojourns among you eat blood.

“Any one also of the people of Israel, or of the strangers who sojourn among them, who takes in hunting any beast or bird that may be eaten shall pour out its blood and cover it with earth. For the life of every creature is its blood: its blood is its life. Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off.

Leviticus 19:26 “You shall not eat any flesh with the blood in it. You shall not interpret omens or tell fortunes.

Deuteronomy 12:16 Only you shall not eat the blood ; you shall pour it out on the earth like water.

Deuteronomy 12:23 Only be sure that you do not eat the blood, for the blood is the life , and you shall not eat the life with the flesh.

Deuteronomy 15:23 Only you shall not eat its blood; you shall pour it out on the ground like water.

Acts 15:12-29 And all the assembly fell silent, and they listened to Barnabas and Paul as they related what signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles. After they finished speaking, James replied, “Brothers, listen to me. Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take from them a people for his name. And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written,

“‘After this I will return, and I will rebuild the tent of David that has fallen; I will rebuild its ruins, and I will restore it, that the remnant of mankind may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who are called by my name, says the Lord, who makes these things known from of old.’

Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood. For from ancient generations Moses has had in every city those who proclaim him, for he is read every Sabbath in the synagogues.”

Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brothers, with the following letter:

“The brothers, both the apostles and the elders, to the brothers who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greetings. Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth. For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”

I believe Jesus when He called the cup *the fruit of the vine*.

Matthew 26:29 I tell you I will not drink again of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.”

Mark 14:25 Truly, I say to you, I will not drink again of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God.”

Luke 22:18 For I tell you that from now on I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.”

John 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

32 posted on 02/28/2017 10:50:41 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
Any church that teaches Scripture is the Truth.

Scripture teaches that the Bread IS the Body of Christ. "This is My Body"

Does your church teach that?

33 posted on 02/28/2017 10:53:30 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: metmom
I believe God when He says this about eating blood.

Do you really?

Looks like you don't believe Scripture.

Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. For my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink (John 6:53-55).

34 posted on 02/28/2017 11:09:53 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive; metmom

I guess you’ve cut off your hands and have plucked out your eyes??


35 posted on 02/28/2017 12:11:02 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
I guess you’ve cut off your hands and have plucked out your eyes??

Not yet

What's your point?

36 posted on 02/28/2017 12:20:51 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

Didn’t He say to do that? I don’t see any Catholics who’ve done this.


37 posted on 02/28/2017 12:23:13 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
Didn’t He say to do that? I don’t see any Catholics who’ve done this.

Explain

38 posted on 02/28/2017 12:27:18 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive
If Catholics want to read John 6 as a literal statement to eat/drink Christ then Catholics have to accept as literal His command to cut off your hand and/or pluck out your eye if it causes you to sin.
39 posted on 02/28/2017 1:10:33 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone; FatherofFive
They also need to accept as literal that Jesus is made of bread dough, wood, and green leaves and stems as well.

I wonder why Catholics don't take THIS verse literally.

Matthew 23: 8-10 But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers.And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ.

40 posted on 02/28/2017 1:12:33 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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