Posted on 03/01/2017 9:40:57 AM PST by ebb tide
We would be thrilled to have the catholics enter our protestant churches. But “reconciliation” always seems to mean we will get to be Roman Catholic.
I present current church leadership, in Rome, London, and elsewhere, as reason to continue division of the Church into separate, but complementary, houses. Each to reinforce and moderate the others.
Here we go again...
I’d love to end the schism, but 1: I refuse to acknowledge the authority of Pope Frank, and 2: Irreconcilable differences regarding the doctrine of justification.
Also, if the ELCA is so eager for unity with the Roman Catholics, I’m not sure I want to be. I already know the ELCA is corrupt; why would any truly Godly organization want them?
Well stated. Very well stated
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Separate, but tied to each other to slap the other on the wrist when they stray - like the pentarchy of churches. If we stand alone we have the ELCA, ECUSA, PCUSA etc. — we don’t want that
I agree. “Reconciliation” seems to mean that protestants will finally acknowledge the Pope as the leader of all Christian churches per current Catholic doctrine. The changes proposed would not induce me to become a Catholic or accept the Pope as the head of my church. I’m not sure to whom this OP is directed because removing “excommunications” from those excommunicated in the Reformation would not mean much to protestants - we don’t believe in it anyway.
My home is in heaven.
I am not interested in fealty to any person or organization other than Christ himself.
We are all the church. Does your church teach the Gospel and is Bible believing? That’s all you need.
The benefit to Catholicism is that it was compelled at last to begin to take stock of itself.
“Yeah...I’m not interested in being “welcomed back “home””.
My home is in heaven.
I am not interested in fealty to any person or organization other than Christ himself.”
I have no problem with faith.
I have a problem with religion.
One man other than Christ, at least!
I agree. And they are always welcome in our church. But I will never a Catholic.
Hard headed? No. but I read my bible (similar but not totally same as Catholic’s) and don’t see where I cannot pray directly to God.
Other issue is illustrated by the current Jesuit Pope. The leftist view of the world. Not buying that.
I would like nothing better than Christian and Jew total cooperation.
There are a lot of current Muslims (by birth) who would choose to be Christians, if it did not cost them their lives. That is another issue.
With this pope? Ain’t gonna happen................
....not tied by any kind of governance. Government, of nation or Church, leads to beauracrats rising to the top and taking over. They then lead in whatever direction they lean.
Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, “Don’t do it!” He said, “Nobody loves me.” I said, “God loves you. Do you believe in God?”
He said, “Yes.” I said, “Are you a Christian or a Jew?” He said, “A Christian.” I said, “Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?” He said, “Protestant.” I said, “Me, too! What franchise?” He said, “Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?” He said, “Northern Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?”
He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.” I said, “Me, too!”
Northern Conservative†Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.” I said, “Die, heretic!” And I pushed him over.
- Emo Philips
No under normal conditions, but with this communist pope, are you kidding????
I can understand this from a European perspective. I cannot see great concern for this among Protestants in healthy and growing Church groups in the U.S., which is not among the old-line “mainstream” Churches that began one way and as they strayed have seen their member leave for the Christian chuches growing and doing well now.
When did the mainstream Churches in the U.S. begin to stray? When they began to (1) embrace the world and (2) embrace cultural Marxist dialectics that attacked everything in their own culture as “wrong”, and they wanted to be “liked” by those embracing that dialectic. In reality, in their moment of greatest strength, in the U.S., their faith weakened and set them against their own foundations. The “flocks” have been leaving ever sense.
I agree...to a point.
I believe we a called to be part of A church. A local congregation or a group of congregations. And that we are to submit ourselves to their leadership. But that leadership is conditional and not universal.
I also believe in the universal church. The universal church as the world wide family of believers in Christ, not a hierarchy that claims fealty to itself.
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