[af_vet_1981]

Odd; in post 68 I read "Don’t know about Calvinists" and in post 72 I read "
I know about them. However, I don't personally know any right now."

I read three contradictory uses of the verb "know" in the comments in question so it is difficult to know what is meant.

Joining a church does not make one a follower of Christ

If one is a member of the church Messiah built on "this rock" then one is a Christian.

in keeping with the topic of this thread

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Matthew, Catholic chapter ten, Protestant verse twenty eight,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

[ealgeone]

Odd; in post 68 I read>> "Don’t know about Calvinists" and in post 72 I read "<<

>> I know about them. However, I don't personally know any right now." <<

> I read three contradictory uses of the verb "know" in the comments in question so it is difficult to know what is meant.

And again...context, which is apparently a new concept to the Catholic, is your friend in these situations.

>> Joining a church does not make one a follower of Christ<<

If one is a member of the church Messiah built on "this rock" then one is a Christian.

You're telling me that every single Roman Catholic, just because they're a member of the RCC, is a Christian?

[metmom]

If one is a member of the church Messiah built on "this rock" then one is a Christian.

Like Kennedy, Kerry, Gillibrand, Pelosi, Chavez, your current pope?

All members in good standing with the Roman Catholic church, as it serves them communion and gives them Catholic funerals, and you're here telling us that they are Christians, followers of Christ and examples of Christ to the world?

SERIOUSLY?????

SO let me see if I have this straight. Being a Christian is something extrinsic to a person, not intrinsic to them. Something that they do, not something that they are.

Correct?