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To: stylin19a

Thank you, stylin. I have years of Baltimore Catechism under my belt. You are correct. Anyone can baptize anyone-—with tap water or anything with water. Iced tea, Diet Coke, or a Gin & Tonic will do just fine.

So bag the classes and do a home Baptism.


14 posted on 08/06/2017 5:08:43 PM PDT by huckfillary
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To: huckfillary

Although home baptisms are valid, one will have problems when it comes time for First Communion, Confirmation and Marriage.


15 posted on 08/06/2017 5:23:25 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: huckfillary

Baltimore Catechism...yikes...learned by rote. retained very little. The filtered version of the bible.

If one commits a sin knowingly taking a living sacrament while in the state of mortal sin,
Can I administer baptism, a sacrament of the dead, while I’m in the state of mortal sin ?


16 posted on 08/06/2017 5:26:12 PM PDT by stylin19a (Lynch & Clinton - Snakes on a Plane)
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To: huckfillary

Whoa! Better double check about the tea, Coke, gin and tonic, etc.!

I am pretty certain that at least some of those liquids would be invalid, and maybe all of them.


23 posted on 08/06/2017 6:17:10 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: huckfillary; Arthur McGowan
No, those are not "just fine". From the Catholic Encyclopedia on Baptism:

The remote matter of baptism, then, is water, and this taken in its usual meaning. Theologians tell us consequently that what men would ordinarily declare water is valid baptismal material, whether it be water of the sea, or fountain, or well, or marsh; whether it be clear or turbid; fresh or salty; hot or cold; colored or uncolored. Water derived from melted ice, snow, or hail is also valid. If, however, ice, snow, or hail be not melted, they do not come under the designation water. Dew, sulfur or mineral water, and that which is derived from steam are also valid matter for this sacrament. As to a mixture of water and some other material, it is held as proper matter, provided the water certainly predominates and the mixture would still be called water. Invalid matter is every liquid that is not usually designated true water. Such are oil, saliva, wine, tears, milk, sweat, beer, soup, the juice of fruits, and any mixture containing water which men would no longer call water. When it is doubtful whether a liquid could really be called water, it is not permissible to use it for baptism except in case of absolute necessity when no certainly valid matter can be obtained.

Arthur: as a priest, wouldn't you know this?

41 posted on 08/07/2017 9:07:48 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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