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To: SisterK; Maudeen; Ezekiel

It took something really cataclysmic to signal to the world that the Temple Mount was WHERE God wanted His Temple to be. As such, the monstrous plague, the appearance of the angel, The sacrifice of David, The Purchase and Sale of the Property, and the Title Deed, were significant enough to still be reverberating to this day.

I have been there, and there IS something about it.


14 posted on 08/12/2017 11:03:48 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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I really got to thinking about this numbers-crunching idea (uh oh!).

I haven't had time to look into specific verses, but was going on memory on where David was talking numbers.

The first thing that popped into my mind was the incident when David was fleeing from Saul, and he asked the priest about the showbread (" five loaves of bread in my hand, or whatever")

The reason I thought of this is because this incident referenced repeatedly in the NT, but also that there were five loaves here:

Mat 14

16 But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to eat.
17 And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two fishes.
18 He said, Bring them hither to me.
19 And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to his disciples, and the disciples to the multitude.
20 And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the fragments that remained twelve baskets full.
21 And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside women and children.

Matthew 16

8 Which when Jesus perceived, he said unto them, O ye of little faith, why reason ye among yourselves, because ye have brought no bread?
9 Do ye not yet understand, neither remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?
10 Neither the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?
11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?
12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

It relates in that there has always been much speculation about these passages, with people endlessly crunching the numbers to find hidden codes or whatever, like with the 153 fish.

Nothing wrong with that per se, but if in doing so, folks lose sight of the big picture...

So you've got all these numbers and Jesus appears to be tossing out some teaser about the meaning of the numbers.

9 Do ye not yet understand, neither remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?
10 Neither the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?

Q: How many baskets?

A: A lot!!! Way more than the volume of the original few loaves.

How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven...

Dead doctrine is like dead leaven, it goes nowhere. No satisfaction. Endless standing in the bread lines, hoping for a little reprieve from the hunger pangs. Keeps everybody dependent and at the mercy of the Establishment bakers.

You don't feed thousands of people so full that you even end up with multiple baskets of leftovers from bread that doesn't rise to the heavens like the stuff Jesus was handing out.

Meanwhile, people are still out there reading up on the theories and crunching those same numbers, adding them up over and over and over but never getting any real solution or satisfaction.

If it goes nowhere, the key is to drop it like the rock that it is, and move on to something that gives rise to more insight. If it's worthwhile, it will return again another time, without the stress and strain.

David's numbering brought death. He should have dropped it when he had the chance. That's why I wondered if he got fixated on some fruitless number-crunching and lost all perspective.

There's my rant (and introspection!) for the day. :)

(In my own defense the numerical patterns do keep going and going, up and up, expanding in scope, which is why I am drawn in, not that I am minded to go in circles like a dog chasing its tail.)

18 posted on 08/12/2017 1:21:59 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn(ed!) the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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