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1 posted on 11/22/2017 9:12:43 AM PST by Salvation
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2 posted on 11/22/2017 9:14:52 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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If you want to live forever, you need to be born again. Otherwise, you die once (your body) and you die a second time (your soul), and you are no more.

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5 posted on 11/22/2017 9:19:42 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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This is a completely un-Biblical position being espoused by the Msgr and thus Roman Catholicism. In Revelation we have this:

The fire and other miseries are largely expressions of the sad condition of those who have rejected the one thing for which they were made: to be caught up into the love and perfection of God and the joy of all the saints.

7When the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison, 8and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore. 9And they came up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them.

10And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

11Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. 12And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.

15And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Rev 20:7-15 NASB

Heaven is a place of absolute perfection, a work accomplished by God for those who say yes.

To be clear....Heaven is for those who have faith in Christ.

6Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me." John 14:6 NASB

Hell, though a place of great evil, is not one of absolute evil. It cannot be, because God continues to sustain human and angelic beings in existence there and existence itself is good. God also judges them according to their deeds (Rom 2:6). Their good deeds may ameliorate their sufferings. This, too, is good and allows for good in varying degrees there. Hell is not in any way pleasant, but it is not equally bad for all. Thus God’s justice, which is good, reaches even Hell.

1Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. 2And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things. 3But do you suppose this, O man, when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God? 4Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance? 5But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6who WILL RENDER TO EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS: 7to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life;

8but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignation.

9There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek,

10but glory and honor and peace to everyone who does good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

11For there is no partiality with God. Romans 2:1-11 NASB

20 posted on 11/22/2017 11:14:02 AM PST by ealgeone
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Many people - including me - believe the unsaved are not eternally punished by God but are annihilated, that is, God causes them to no longer exist.

Search online for Edward Fudge’s book “The Fire That Consumes” for more information on this viewpoint.


34 posted on 11/22/2017 4:19:27 PM PST by redfog
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