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Protestantism, Modernism, Atheism
Crisis Magazine ^ | November 28, 2017 | Julia Meloni

Posted on 11/28/2017 12:09:34 PM PST by ebb tide

“The reality of the apostasy of faith in our time rightly and profoundly frightens us,” said Cardinal Burke in honor of Fatima’s centenary.

In 1903, Pope St. Pius X declared himself “terrified” by humanity’s self-destructive apostasy from God: “For behold they that go far from Thee shall perish” (Ps. 72:27). How much more “daunting,” said Cardinal Burke, is today’s “widespread apostasy.”

In 1910, St. Pius X condemned the movement for a “One-World Church” without dogmas, hierarchy, or “curb for the passions”—a church which, “under the pretext of freedom,” would impose “legalized cunning and force.” How much more, said Cardinal Burke, do today’s “movements for a single government of the world” and “certain movements with the Church herself” disregard sin and salvation?

In Pascendi, St. Pius X named the trajectory toward the “annihilation of all religion”: “The first step … was taken by Protestantism; the second … by [the heresy of] Modernism; the next will plunge headlong into atheism.”

So let us, said Cardinal Burke, heed Fatima’s call for prayer, penance, and reparation. Let us be “agents” of the triumph of Mary’s Immaculate Heart.

A few weeks after that speech, the Vatican announced its shining tribute to the Protestant revolution: a golden stamp with Luther and Melanchthon at the foot of the cross, triumphantly supplanting the Blessed Virgin and St. John.

Bishop Athanasius Schneider has asked how the Vatican can call Luther a “witness to the gospel” when he “called the Mass … a blasphemy” and “the papacy an invention of Satan.” The signatories of the filial correction have expressed “wonderment and sorrow” at a statue of Luther in the Vatican—and documented the “affinity” between “Luther’s ideas on law, justification, and marriage” and Pope Francis’s statements.

At a 2016 joint “commemoration” of the Protestant revolution, Pope Francis expressed “joy” for its myriad “gifts.” He and pro-abortion Lutherans with female clergy jointly declared that “what unites us is greater than what divides us.” Together they “raise[d]” their “voices” against “violence.”   They prayed for the conversion of those who exploit the earth. They declared the “goal” of receiving the Eucharist “at one table” to express their “full unity.”

In Martin Luther: An Ecumenical Perspective, Cardinal Kasper confirms that the excommunicated, apostate monk is now a “common church father,” a new St. Francis of Assisi. This prophet of the “new evangelization” was “forced” into calling the pope the Antichrist after his “call for repentance was not heard.” But Kasper finds ecumenical hope in Luther’s “statement that he would…kiss the feet of a pope who allows and acknowledges his gospel.”

Kasper says Pope Francis’s Evangelii Gaudium, “without mentioning him by name,” makes Luther’s concerns “stand in the center.”

So it’s Luther’s “gospel of grace and mercy” behind, apparently, the high disdain for “self-absorbed promethean neopelagianis[ts]” plagued by a “soundness of doctrine” that’s “narcissistic and authoritarian” (EG 94).

So it’s Luther—the bizarre protagonist of “ecumenical unity”—behind the demand for a “conversion of the papacy” that gives “genuine doctrinal authority” to episcopal conferences (EG 32). Sandro Magister says the pope is already creating a “federation of national Churches endowed with extensive autonomy” through liturgical decentralization.

So it’s Luther behind the demand to “accept the unruly freedom of the word, which accomplishes what it wills in ways that surpass our…ways of thinking” (EG 22). Kasper says Luther’s faith in the “self-implementation of the word of God” gave him a heroic “openness to the future.”

Ultimately, Kasper’s Luther—a prophet of “openness” to futurity, a “Catholic reformer” waiting for a sympathetic pope—emerges as a symbolic father for Modernism’s struggle to change the Church from within. Modernism falsely claims that God evolves with history—making truth utterly mutable. So Kasper the Modernist says dogmas can be “stupid” and Church structures can spring from “ideology” and denying the Eucharist to adulterers because of “one phrase” from Christ is “ideological,” too.

Kasper baldly calls the “changeless” God an “offense to man”:

One must deny him for man’s sake, because he claims for himself the dignity and honor that belong by right to man….

We must resist this God … also for God’s sake. He is not the true God at all, but rather a wretched idol. For a God … who is not himself history is a finite God. If we call such a being God, then for the sake of the Absolute we must become absolute atheists. Such a God springs from a rigid worldview; he is the guarantor of the status quo and the enemy of the new.

A shocking ultimatum from the man hailed as “the pope’s theologian”: either embrace a mutable God who’s not an “enemy of the new”—or profess “absolute,” unflinching, hardcore atheism.

Kasper says the Church must be led by a “spirit” that “is not primarily the third divine person.” That ominous “spirit,” says Thomas Stark, is apparently some Hegelian agent of creation’s self-perfection. Pope Francis, against all the “sourpusses” (EG 85), describes our “final cause” as “the utopian future” (EG 222). Because God wants us to be “happy” in this world, it’s “no longer possible to claim that religion … exists only to prepare souls for heaven” (EG 182).

But Christ said, “In the world you shall have distress” (Jn. 16:33). The 1907 dystopian novel The Lord of the World hauntingly imagines the travails of history’s last days, when humanity has heeded Kasper’s call to “resist” God with absolute atheism if necessary. By this point, “Protestantism is dead,” for men “recognize at last that a supernatural religion involves an absolute authority.” Those with “any supernatural belief left” are Catholic—persecuted by a world professing “no God but man, no priest but the politician.”

More and more clergy apostatize. Man “has learned his own divinity.” Yet Fr. Percy Franklin still adores the Eucharistic Lord, still believes that “the reconciling of a soul to God” is greater than the reconciling of nations. He secretly hears a dying woman’s confession before the “real priests”—the euthanizers—come.

Her daughter-in-law, Mabel, scoffs that the new atheism has perfected Catholicism:

Do you not understand that all which Jesus Christ promised has come true, though in another way? The reign of God has really begun; but we know now who God is. You said just now you wanted the forgiveness of Sins; well, you have that; we all have it, because there is no such thing as sin. There is only Crime.

And then Communion. You used to believe that that made you a partaker of God; well, we are all partakers of God, because we are all human beings.

Mabel and the rapt multitudes ritually worship Man. God was a “hideous nightmare.” Their spirits swoon before a politician promising “the universal brotherhood of man.”

That “savior of the world” is the Antichrist. All must deny God or die.

For history, like the novel itself, ends not with rapturous utopia but with tribulation, apostasy, martyrdoms, and “God’s triumph over the revolt of evil [in] the form of the Last Judgment” (CCC 677). In the throes of his own tribulation, Fr. Franklin calls us to cling to the faith and those refuges of old:

The mass, prayer, the rosary. These first and last. The world denies their power: it is on their power that Christians must throw all their weight.



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To: Hrvatski Noahid; Elsie
Oh?

Why not?

In order to bring a sacrifice, one should be worthy to approach that close to G-d, which is something that is very difficult to achieve in our time. A deed which one takes on voluntarily as an additional service to G-d must be done in an especially sincere and holy way. If the additional service to G-d is not performed by these higher standards, it will be considered as blemished before Him. It is obvious that this type of Torah-based Divine service should be instructed and supervised only by a reliable and expert Orthodox Rabbi, which is very difficult to arrange in our time.

Elsie is again making an argument based on the American Evangelical Protestant worldview. The theory is that, since the sacrifices are not being offered in the Holy Temple at this time, then the "sacrifice" of J*sus simply must have taken their place, else G-d would be compelled by His Holiness to destroy and damn the entire human race. They simply do not understand the principals of the Torah.

They forget that this is not at all the only time in history when the sacrifices were not being offered. Not only were they missing during the Babylonian Captivity of seventy years, but they weren't even offered every day at the Tabernacle in the Wilderness. The Torah plainly states that the offerings were made whenever the Israelites were settled down in a single place, but when they were traveling and the Tabernacle was disassembled, there were no sacrifices.

They also don't understand that the chata't (sin offering) only atoned for sins committed inadvertently and did not atone for intentional sins at all. Intentional sins had to be punished by the Beit Din (American evangelicals tend to conflate all punishment of sin with "eternal damnation"). Intentional sins can only be erased through repentance.

They also ignore the fact that, while non-Jews have always been permitted to offer sacrifices, they have never at any time been required to do so. Only Israel was obliged to offer the sacrifices mandated in the Torah.

And finally, they don't understand how difficult it would be for non-Jews to correctly offer a qorban. It would have to be offered on a multi-stone altar that when not being used would have to be buried to prevent it from becoming ritually impure. Non-Jews are permitted to offer only the `olah, the "whole burnt offering," and not sin offerings, trespass offerings, or guilt offerings. Finally, the skin of the sacrifice would have to be presented to a Jewish kohen, all of whom (except the very young) are now ritually impure via contact with dead bodies.

American Evangelical Protestants believe in chrstianity because "the bible" (ie, their Protestant bible) tells them to. They never question how their bible was assembled. They literally assume it is self-evidently true and self-authenticating, and so long as their Protestant bible contains a "new testament" they will never question its validity. Until they learn that it is G-d Who authorizes the Bible and not the other way around, they are hopeless.

921 posted on 12/05/2017 7:48:32 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: Hrvatski Noahid
There is no specific number of times. Repentance helps to remove the sins between a person and G-d, such as one who serves idols. But for one who steals from his fellow, damages him or harms him, his repentance is not effective until he appeases the person he wronged and asks forgiveness from him, and if the person agrees.

One is to ask for forgiveness up to three times. At this point the offended party is required to grant forgiveness or he himself violates a commandment. (Or at least this is what I understand. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Your knowledge is much more systematic than mine.)

922 posted on 12/05/2017 7:52:00 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: Hrvatski Noahid; Mark17

The spirit of antichrist is strong with you ...


923 posted on 12/05/2017 8:08:22 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: ealgeone

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Closest thing in English is simply the KJV but without the deceptive italicised words that were put in to change the meanings in most places.

Funny thing is that most of the texts that claim to be better translations are little more than KJV, with the italicised words, paraphrased carefully enough to copyright.

Westcott and Hort clearly wished to write the diety of our Lord out of the Bible (as their letters unabashedly stated) but now its just about marketing and profit.
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924 posted on 12/05/2017 8:12:21 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

> Elsie is again making an argument based on the American Evangelical Protestant worldview.

I am still not impressed.

> They also ignore the fact that, while non-Jews have always been permitted to offer sacrifices, they have never at any time been required to do so.

Correct.

> American Evangelical Protestants believe in chrstianity because “the bible” (ie, their Protestant bible) tells them to.

It is easy to believe anything. I care about facts and evidence, not subjective opinions.

> Until they learn that it is G-d Who authorizes the Bible and not the other way around, they are hopeless.

Indeed.


925 posted on 12/05/2017 8:17:50 AM PST by Hrvatski Noahid
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To: MHGinTN; Hrvatski Noahid; Mark17; Zionist Conspirator

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>> “The spirit of antichrist is strong with you ..” <<

What I am seeing is not so much “antichrist” as it is brggadocio about special gnostic “understandings” mostly picked out of Sohar and Kabbalah.

IOW, a chest thumping contest.
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926 posted on 12/05/2017 8:19:25 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Your Roodian eyes are clouded ...


927 posted on 12/05/2017 8:26:52 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

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No, I’m just used to guys like you :o)
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928 posted on 12/05/2017 8:35:07 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Has God come in the flesh, to redeem humankind?


929 posted on 12/05/2017 8:36:37 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Hrvatski Noahid

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“ I care about facts and evidence, not subjective opinions.”
(He said, subjectively)
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930 posted on 12/05/2017 8:38:33 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MHGinTN

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He most certainly has!

And his Son, in whose person he came, is returning in a little less than 7 years to gather those that believed his words and ways, and lived in accordance thereto.
(there will be gnashing of teeth)
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931 posted on 12/05/2017 8:43:59 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

The spirit of antichrist denies that He has come in the flesh ...


932 posted on 12/05/2017 8:45:49 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I meant there is no specific number of times G-d can forgive.

> One is to ask for forgiveness up to three times. At this point the offended party is required to grant forgiveness or he himself violates a commandment. (Or at least this is what I understand. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

I checked the Divine Code. It does not say how many times one is to ask for forgiveness. Here is the exact wording:

“It is forbidden for a person who was wronged to be cruel and not let himself be appeased. Rather he should be forgiving and agree to pardon the one who sinned against him, if he asks for forgiveness with a complete and willing heart.”

(It is possible that asking for forgiveness up to three times is the Torah Law for Jews, not the Torah Law for Gentiles)

> Your knowledge is much more systematic than mine.

Thank you for your kind words. There is no competition. You know how much I value your learning and our friendship.


933 posted on 12/05/2017 8:49:03 AM PST by Hrvatski Noahid
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To: MHGinTN

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I fully agree, but that was not the purpose of his posts.

He was trying to show off how learned he thinks he is.


934 posted on 12/05/2017 8:51:37 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
You do realize the KJV has italicized words as well?

A side by side comparison of the texts in questions reveals no theological differences between the two.

935 posted on 12/05/2017 9:44:21 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Elsie
Only God is shown or described as able to hear from Heaven all prayer,...

The Book Rome assembled says even MORE!! Psalm 139:3-5 3 You scrutinize my path and my lying down, And are intimately acquainted with all my ways. 4 Even before there is a word on my tongue, Behold, O LORD, You know it all. 5 You have enclosed me behind and before, And laid Your hand upon me.

Don't give them any more ideas to add to their parallelization with the Lord Jesus, and worship and serve the creature more than the Creator who is blessed forever.

936 posted on 12/05/2017 10:16:58 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: ealgeone

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I specifically said one must disregard those italicised attacks on the word. (unless you like to be misled)
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937 posted on 12/05/2017 2:57:00 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Have you done a side by side comparison of the texts?


938 posted on 12/05/2017 3:01:56 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Zionist Conspirator; daniel1212; aMorePerfectUnion; ealgeone; metmom; boatbums; MHGinTN; Elsie; ...
They never question how their bible was assembled.

LOL. Horse hockey. I disagree bro. So what else is new? Disagreeing with you, has been raised to an art form. Your entire post was so full of inaccuracies, I wouldn’t know where to begin, to refute them. I would never accuse you of lying, but I ABSOLUTELY will say my opinion is, that you have no understanding of spiritual issues and Christianity at all. Daniel, the wise one, AMPU, Ealgeone et al, you all have a better handle on apologetics than I do, but for the Zionist to make a statement like that, is laughable.

939 posted on 12/05/2017 3:19:29 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
American Evangelical Protestants believe in chrstianity because "the bible" (ie, their Protestant bible) tells them to. They never question how their bible was assembled. They literally assume it is self-evidently true and self-authenticating, and so long as their Protestant bible contains a "new testament" they will never question its validity. Until they learn that it is G-d Who authorizes the Bible and not the other way around, they are hopeless.

You must not read the threads too often on how the canon of the OT and NT were formed and which books should be in each.

Personally I have an excellent book on the history of the formation of the canon....The Canon of Scripture by F.F. Bruce.

The very group you criticize is the first one to admit the Scriptures are inspired by God...not a church. That's the position of the Roman Catholics.

940 posted on 12/05/2017 3:25:37 PM PST by ealgeone
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