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Where does a pastor get his authority?
Running Away From My Church Blog ^ | 1/7/2018 | Robert Messner

Posted on 01/07/2018 1:17:40 PM PST by tiredofallofit

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To: ealgeone
Ok. Have you cut off your hands or plucked out your eye? Still waiting on your answer.

You are right. We should just ignore all of Scripture. It is all a made up fairy tale.

461 posted on 01/10/2018 2:57:37 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

Huh? Are you serious?

Dodgers fan, are you?


462 posted on 01/10/2018 3:10:08 PM PST by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: SouthernClaire
Huh? Are you serious?

A serious question. Why did Jesus heal on the Sabbath?

463 posted on 01/10/2018 3:14:07 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

This is not how a conversation works. Least not in my neck of the woods.

I answered you but you won’t answer a question. You never respond to what’s been asked you and I’ll be blankety-blank-blank if I’m going all the way back to kindergarten level Sunday School.

My ass has not fallen into a ditch, but it’s beginning to look a lot like someone else’s has.


464 posted on 01/10/2018 3:22:44 PM PST by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
“Now what Church had Peter as its first leader? None in Scripture.

Except here - “Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Mat 16:17-18

465 posted on 01/10/2018 3:24:45 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

FoF
You are really far back in the thread and incorrect.

Peter’s confession was the Rock upon which Christ built - not a church - His Assembly.


466 posted on 01/10/2018 3:31:46 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: SouthernClaire
This is not how a conversation works.

Well, this is exactly how a conversation works. You make an absurd statement, and I reply with the truth. Then you are supposed to show why your lie is somehow truth.

467 posted on 01/10/2018 3:32:05 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

Are you accusing me of lying?


468 posted on 01/10/2018 3:34:20 PM PST by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: FatherofFive

Here’s something you might find to be interesting

https://christiansundivided.wordpress.com/2015/08/14/questions-for-christians-did-jesus-mean-this-is-my-body/


469 posted on 01/10/2018 3:35:12 PM PST by rwa265
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To: SouthernClaire
I am sorry. I did not accuse you of lying. I confused responses.

Please forgive me

470 posted on 01/10/2018 3:46:44 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

Should be a simple yes or no. But don’t fret.....you’re not the first Roman Catholic to avoid the question. I can understand why.


471 posted on 01/10/2018 3:47:05 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: FatherofFive

It’s no big deal.

Have a good night.


472 posted on 01/10/2018 3:55:32 PM PST by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: FatherofFive
>>Didn't Jesus also say that whoever ate His flesh and drank His blood would never die? That they would never hunger or thirst again? They seem to be able to understand the spiritual meaning there and not the literal.<<

So when Christ said you would never die after eating his flesh, He was lying? it wasn't literal?

Good question, FOF! Was Jesus saying that no one would ever die or be hungry or thirsty again - LITERALLY - or was He speaking of our eternal spiritual life, hunger and thirst? It's not that difficult, really. Of course he wasn't talking about nobody being exempt from a physical death - plenty of Christians were martyred and EVERYONE eventually dies. Of course He didn't mean nobody will ever be physically hungry or thirsty again - we ALL will. BUT...when we consider the spiritual aspect, we understand that we will NEVER die spiritually, we will NEVER hunger or thirst after we have received the bread of life and the water of life. No, Jesus wasn't lying, He was speaking of a SPIRITUAL truth that requires the indwelling Holy Spirit to understand.

473 posted on 01/10/2018 4:06:17 PM PST by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: SouthernClaire
“Eze 3:1 Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, eat that thou findest; eat this roll, and go speak unto the house of Israel.”

Do you take it literally?

Obviously God turned the roll into an Eclair...

474 posted on 01/10/2018 4:17:58 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool

Thumbs up!


475 posted on 01/10/2018 4:29:01 PM PST by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: FatherofFive
He handed them BREAD
What part of 'This is my body' do you not understand?

What part of Jesus isn't made out of bread do YOU not understand???

Hey, you have your understanding of Jesus' words and I have mine. You won't convince me yours is the better argument and it's obvious I'm not getting through to you. Do you at least acknowledge that I can have a genuine faith in Jesus Christ and not buy into Catholicism?

476 posted on 01/10/2018 4:38:13 PM PST by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: FatherofFive
Correct, sort of. Christ did not turn bread into meat. He turned it into His Body. Bread changed into His Body

That is what 'This is My Body' means

But his body was bread...His flesh was bread...

Joh_6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Jesus' flesh was bread, according to Jesus...

At this point in time Jesus was not passing out bread, yet he said 'THIS', (speaking of his body) 'BREAD',,,,,,,,,,,,

There's nothing anywhere that indicates Jesus turned a loaf of bread into bloody meat...If anything, his body was turned into some Pumpernickel or Rye...

You're trying to convince us that in one verse Jesus spoke literally when in every verse associated with it involves a metaphor...You're just fooling yourself...

Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
Mat 13:15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Mat 13:16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
Mat 13:17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

You might want to consider that...

477 posted on 01/10/2018 4:39:32 PM PST by Iscool
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To: rwa265
The blog's a little loose and slanted with the facts.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church lets us know that the Eucharist is a “memorial”:

1409 The Eucharist is the memorial of Christ’s Passover, that is, of the work of salvation accomplished by the life, death, and resurrection of Christ, a work made present by the liturgical action.

The Catechism calls the Eucharist a sacrifice in multiple places.

478 posted on 01/10/2018 4:46:43 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: rwa265

That is a terrible blog....is it yours? Whoever it belongs to needs to take the thing down.


479 posted on 01/10/2018 4:58:59 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Iscool
Well, if Jesus body/flesh is not meat, then what was He?

He could not have been human.

So He was made out of bread?

If He is the bread, then where did the blood come from?

Was He bread, like this perhaps?


480 posted on 01/10/2018 6:08:59 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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