Posted on 01/11/2018 6:54:52 PM PST by Salvation
Sorry about my post with out any spaces but I think you can get the point.
Jesus called Simon Cephas which means rock in Aramaic
and also Hebrew, you can translate it to what ever you
want.
If it is Greek, Latin or pig Latin it still means rock.
You still do not understand “virgin birth”, just like your opinions and misunderstandings of the teachings of the Catholic Church as preached verbally by Jesus Christ and the apostles and later written in the books of the Bible.
The Prayer Of Mary
My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord,
my spirit rejoices in God my Savior
for he has looked with favor on his lowly servant.
From this day all generations will call me blessed:
the Almighty has done great things for me,
and holy is his Name.
He has mercy on those who fear him
in every generation.
He has shown the strength of his arm,
he has scattered the proud in their conceit.
He has cast down the mighty from their thrones,
and has lifted up the lowly.
He has filled the hungry with good things,
and the rich he has sent away empty.
He has come to the help of his servant Israel
for he remembered his promise of mercy,
the promise he made to our fathers,
to Abraham and his children forever.
(Lk 1:46-55)
No, the word Kephas is not Greek. The Aramaic word pronounced as Kefas comes from the Chaldee tongue and is in lexicons as follows:
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Strong's Number H3710
כֵּף
kêph
kafe
Strong's Definition:
From H3721; a hollow rock: - rock.
Total KJV occurrences: 2:
Brown, Driver, Briggs Definition:
1) rock, hollow of a rock Part of Speech: noun masculine
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The sound of the word is transliterated into the Greek, and an inflected ending given to it. That word is:
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Strong's Number G2786
Κηφᾶς
Kēphas
kay-fas'
Strong's Definition:
Of Chaldee origin (compare [H3710]); the Rock; Cephas (that is, Kepha), surname of Peter: - Cephas. Total KJV occurrences: 6
Thayer's Definition:
Cephas = “stone”
1) another name for the apostle Peter
Part of Speech: noun proper masculine
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Kephas does not mean "rock" in Greek. It means "petros" in the Greek mind that knows no English, but "stone" in the English mind that knows no Greek. The KJV translators took the word "Cephas" from the Vulgate, where about 400 A. D. Jerome transliterated the Aramaic/Greek sound by using the Latin alphabet. The English alphabet has a lot in common with the Latin, except for example "K" which does not exist in Latin, which uses "C" to express the "K" sound. So to pronounce "Cephas" as "Seefuss" betrays one's lack of a better education. The word written "Cephas" in English is pronounced "Kay-fahss"
So, I hope you have followed this discussion of your mistaken conclusions.
Don't confuse transliteration with translation, nor interpretation (which is giving the meaning of a word in one language with the words of another language) with either.
C'est si bon!
I’m afraid, after partially reading this post, that you are quite confused as to the meanings of transliteration, translation, and interpretation, particularly as to what word is going to be operated on to give its sense in another language. Go back to the start, learn which operation you are discussing, and your post will be cut to 10% of the space and time you took.
All I did was to show you the actual interpretation of the
words, if any one is confused it is you, I do not have to
try to change the scripture because I believe Jesus knew just
what he was talking about.
Luke 10:16:
In the context of Jesus saying “he who rejects me rejects him (the Father) who sent me,” Jesus said, “He who hears you hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me.”
Unless you have another definition of "virgin", I think we've agreed it means, in this case, that Mary became pregnant through the actions of the Holy Spirit.
just like your opinions and misunderstandings of the teachings of the Catholic Church as preached verbally by Jesus Christ and the apostles and later written in the books of the Bible.
Well, for starters, the Immaculate Conception wasn't preached by anyone in the Bible, nor were the Assumption, Mary as "mother of God", Mary as co-redemptrix, Mary as advocatrix, infant baptism, the Mass in only Latin, the Mass, mandatory days of obligation, purgatory, etc. In fact, you will not find a lot of Roman Catholic teachings in the books of the Bible.
“Well, for starters, the Immaculate Conception wasn’t preached by anyone in the Bible, nor were the Assumption, Mary as “mother of God”, Mary as co-redemptrix, Mary as advocatrix, infant baptism, the Mass in only Latin, the Mass, mandatory days of obligation, purgatory, etc. In fact, you will not find a lot of Roman Catholic teachings in the books of the Bible. ”
+1
In addition, no evidence that any Apostle ever believed or taught any of that paganism.
Your comment; “Grace is not in effect unless there is sin.
If Mary was full of grace, it was because she was a sinner.”
Your personal opinion. Not theologically correct.
https://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/grace
Grace (gratia, [Gr.] charis), in general, is a supernatural gift of God to intellectual creatures (men, angels) for their eternal salvation, whether the latter be furthered and attained through salutary acts or a state of holiness. Eternal salvation itself consists in heavenly bliss resulting from the intuitive knowledge of the Triune God, who to the one not endowed with grace “inhabiteth light inaccessible” (I Tim., vi, 16).
In the process of justification we must distinguish two periods: first, the preparatory acts or dispositions (faith, fear, hope, etc.); then the last, decisive moment of the transformation of the sinner from the state of sin to that of justification or sanctifying grace, which may be called the active justification (actus justificationis); with this the real process comes to an end, and the state of habitual holiness and sonship of God begins. Touching both of these periods there has existed, and still exists, in part, a great conflict of opinion between Catholicism and Protestantism. This conflict may be reduced to four differences of teaching. By a justifying faith the Church understands qualitatively the theoretical faith in the truths of Revelation, and demands over and above this faith other acts of preparation for justification. Protestantism, on the other hand, reduces the process of justification to merely a fiduciary faith; and maintains that this faith, exclusive even of good works, is all-sufficient for justification, laying great stress upon the scriptural statement sola fides justificat. The Church teaches that justification consists of an actual obliteration of sin and an interior sanctification. Protestantism, on the other hand, makes of the forgiveness of sin merely a concealment of it, so to speak; and of the sanctification a forensic declaration of justification, or an external imputation of the justice of Christ. In the presentation of the process of justification, we will everywhere note this fourfold confessional conflict.
Pius IX
Sounds like something Baghdad Bob would spout.
It 'means' she was killed by a sword!
Just like when Jesus said, "This is my body."
I would also recommend you read Galatians and Colossians.
My other recommendation is to not use any commentary....just read the text for yourself.
Ask yourself the following question.
If Jesus' death on the cross was sufficient to cover all of my sins...past, present and future....then what deed can I do that equals that?
Nice try to flip the argument.
It is ROME that has NO PROOF of Mary EVER being sinless.
It did; however; produce a book that contains the phase, "...ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of GOD."
Try 175 - 176 for starters...
Two conjectures in one sentence!
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An assertion based on an assumption.
Keep cranking out these illogical statements.
You read the Scripture.
Did Jesus say anything to Peter to indicate at name change?
18 And Jesus walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea (for they were fishers).
19 And he saith to them: Come ye after me, and I will make you to be fishers of men.
The members of the Church at Rome seem to believe a lot of stuff with no foundation...
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